Good to know he’s been able to reach his top lawyers on a Saturday to have an urgent consultation about a dodgy pinball he’s sold
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FunHouse received today
- Thread starter Ads Nems
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I thought your solicitor had advised you to not enter into any further dialogue?
I’d have no hesitation in going to small claims on this if you can’t get a refund from the seller. the item is not as described (you have the description of the pf condition in writing from the seller). this whole thread is useful evidence of the fact this is not as described and you can also easily get a written “professional opinion” from one of our many members here who is in the pinball business. The value of a pinball is largely based on condition and the playfield is a major & expensive component, and is also the key part of the machine as it’s where the game is played and what the player looks at most whilst playing. It’s cheap to bang in a claim, more expensive for a defendant to defend it. It’s going to be a lot less hassle for the seller to sort it out before that happens.
Who’s that because there are only a few of us in Wales that I know about and I don’t want anyone thinking it’s got anything to do with me.
@AlanJ thanks . Yes I’m starting the claim on Monday. I’ve had a few of the senior experienced members kindly offer to act as expert witnesses. Should be quite straightforward .
@M4carp .Believe Rossco can recommend a very good solicitor, cheap weekend rates, has experience of pinball related disputes.
You cant sue for deformation of character if it is fact. Nor libel for that matter.
Interested that you managed to speak to someone from Brett Wilson - who dont work on Saturdays.
Finally since you have started spouting legal and waving legal statements about then I have no option but to remove you from the site.
I wish Ads good luck in his claim, and I for one will be happy to back him up if needed.
Oh - probably worth adding - it's explicitly against T&C's to register 2 accounts unless previously approved by an admin. So you were in contravention of the Terms of the site.
With the condition of that Fun House I expect the same fate for the Family Guy.If/when @Rossco ever looks to sell on the Family Guy under one of many aliases or via a friend , he has turned off the largest pinball community in the U.K. from dealing with him. Nice going Chief
I’ve been truly Rosscoed without Vaseline on this one !
Despite the new version announced I ended up with a special edition Funhouse 1.0 Real Rudy’s Nightmare
Shame he's been banned as I wanted to hear more drivel
I can confirm it definitely wasn't you. It's someone who mainly sells via thier own website and based near New Quay.
Damn I might actually have to get on with some chores now.
Ahh I think I know who you mean and not too far from me
What’s your solar power like today?
Now that we have legal threats flying around I'd like to go on the record with the following statement for Rossco to submit to his crack legal team seeing as I've posted a humorous take earlier in the thread.
- This machine is not in 'very good condition'
- No reasonable or honest person would describe this machine as being in 'very good condition'
- Describing this machine as being in 'very good condition' was active misrepresentation.
- This machine has some of the most extensive playfield damage I've seen on any machine for sale over the past eighteen years that wasn't described as a project machine requiring extensive refurbishment.
- The fact that the machine is fully working does not render the above mute. A machine can be fully working but in very poor condition. Case in point if this machine is indeed fully working.
- The fact that this machine is 30 years old is irrelevant. Items that are 30 years old can be in very good condition, or very poor condition. The latter applies here.
- The fact that the seller made the buyer aware he 'needed the money' for another purchase is entirely irrelevant.
- There are plenty of resources available on this site alone to help you ascertain the condition and value of a machine.
Now let's look at some evidence. The last Funhouse advertised for sale on the forum was from @new forest pinball last December:
This machine was described as being in 'excellent players condition', which is a more conservative description than 'very good condition'. It was advertised for just £150 more than than @Ads Nems paid for the disaster of a machine in question. Let's compare.
'Excellent players condition'
'Very good condition'
'Excellent players condition'
'Very good condition'
'Excellent players condition'
'Very good condition'
I stand by all my earlier statements and look forward to being sued for defamation of character and/or libel despite not naming the seller nor knowing who he is.
In previous posts I described him as being a prick. Now that he is threatening legal action I would like to apologise and retract this statement. The seller isn't a prick. He's a massive, massive prick.
- This machine is not in 'very good condition'
- No reasonable or honest person would describe this machine as being in 'very good condition'
- Describing this machine as being in 'very good condition' was active misrepresentation.
- This machine has some of the most extensive playfield damage I've seen on any machine for sale over the past eighteen years that wasn't described as a project machine requiring extensive refurbishment.
- The fact that the machine is fully working does not render the above mute. A machine can be fully working but in very poor condition. Case in point if this machine is indeed fully working.
- The fact that this machine is 30 years old is irrelevant. Items that are 30 years old can be in very good condition, or very poor condition. The latter applies here.
- The fact that the seller made the buyer aware he 'needed the money' for another purchase is entirely irrelevant.
- There are plenty of resources available on this site alone to help you ascertain the condition and value of a machine.
Now let's look at some evidence. The last Funhouse advertised for sale on the forum was from @new forest pinball last December:
Sold - WILLIAMS FUNHOUSE EXCELLENT PLAYERS CONDITION
Hi all, Hopefully you are all having a good break. Here we have a 1991 Williams Funhouse pinball machine for sale. Sticking closely to recent sales thread guidelines and feedback, here’s the story. MACHINE HISTORY. This machine was one of our first mint restoration jobs back in 2007/2008. It was...
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This machine was described as being in 'excellent players condition', which is a more conservative description than 'very good condition'. It was advertised for just £150 more than than @Ads Nems paid for the disaster of a machine in question. Let's compare.
'Excellent players condition'
'Very good condition'
'Excellent players condition'
'Very good condition'
'Excellent players condition'
'Very good condition'
I stand by all my earlier statements and look forward to being sued for defamation of character and/or libel despite not naming the seller nor knowing who he is.
In previous posts I described him as being a prick. Now that he is threatening legal action I would like to apologise and retract this statement. The seller isn't a prick. He's a massive, massive prick.
I'm pretty sure I know who you're talking about, and if so, I also had a bad experience buying a machine from him. The only bad experience I've ever had in thirty odd purchases.
distance selling laws cover this ?
No, I think it should only apply if you're actively deceived and buy said machine. That would mean you've been Rossco'd.
Late to the party but I’ve just DM’d Adam as I’m absolutely gutted for him.
Although I have not Met Adam in person we have spoke on a few occasions as he has bought a few pins from me now spending in the region of 25-28k with me!
He has always been happy with my pins and others he has also obtained through here so was maybe lulled into a false sense or security. In reality I think Adam was a perfect candidate for a sting and taken advantage of.
I do believe in Karma and hopefully @roscco gets “roscoe’d” himself and gets to feel the pain he has inflicted on not only Adam but the community as a whole.
Unfortunately by his manor and attitude I doubt he even gives a ****e! So hopefully he gets “Roscoe’d” from behind with a blunt rusty (insert your imagination here) and he feels the pain that way.
As an owner of at least 10 FH’s I’ve actually scrapped better ones in the early days for spares!
My last FH was a ChrisB minty that Chris restored for me and years later did a mini shop and fixed a few issues.
This now sits in a very good friends collection local to me so I can still get to play and maybe talk him into FH2.0 some point.
Keep your chin up Adam we are rooting for you as don’t let it dampen your spirits too much as fortunately 99% on here are the good guys.
Although I have not Met Adam in person we have spoke on a few occasions as he has bought a few pins from me now spending in the region of 25-28k with me!
He has always been happy with my pins and others he has also obtained through here so was maybe lulled into a false sense or security. In reality I think Adam was a perfect candidate for a sting and taken advantage of.
I do believe in Karma and hopefully @roscco gets “roscoe’d” himself and gets to feel the pain he has inflicted on not only Adam but the community as a whole.
Unfortunately by his manor and attitude I doubt he even gives a ****e! So hopefully he gets “Roscoe’d” from behind with a blunt rusty (insert your imagination here) and he feels the pain that way.
As an owner of at least 10 FH’s I’ve actually scrapped better ones in the early days for spares!
My last FH was a ChrisB minty that Chris restored for me and years later did a mini shop and fixed a few issues.
This now sits in a very good friends collection local to me so I can still get to play and maybe talk him into FH2.0 some point.
Keep your chin up Adam we are rooting for you as don’t let it dampen your spirits too much as fortunately 99% on here are the good guys.
Yes I think it's important for the upcoming case to point out what an absolute bellend Rossco is. Happy to swear an oath etc
Thanks a lot Col. You’ve always been an absolute gent to deal with and I can safely say are most definitely one of the “good guys”.
If my wife read your post and saw how much I’ve spent with you I’d be in a worse situation that what happened with Rosco
If this incident was my first of buying a machine then it would have probably put me off getting into the hobby for life . Luckily I have had the pleasure to get to know a wide array of some great honest people from all over the country and thankfully the “bad hombres” are few and far between.
Must be the name!
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We should be keeping a tally of the amount of tines we've been threatened with legal action for calling out scamming scummy scum sucking theiving deceiving asshats. (On the record @Roscoe) without ever being served a single legal document (even a fake one). I reckon we'd have a fairly decent total by now.
Further, I would suggest that anyone who is actually capable of doing such a thing would just f#cking do it rather than threaten it.
Further, I would suggest that anyone who is actually capable of doing such a thing would just f#cking do it rather than threaten it.
