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UKPinfest 2019 23rd, 24th, 25th August

I am sure you've put so much time and effort into this and believe it is the right way to do it. However, as a participant, it isn't personally what I would want from a competition.
I don't necessarily believe it is the 'right way' to do it - there will never be a format which pleases everybody. It is however a tried and tested format which works all over the US and Europe, (many here will have played in the classics at the Belgian Open - qualifying here is the EXACT same format) and similar complaints are voiced over there at times regarding the pot, but to attract the best players there needs to be an incentive to travel.

It also isn't personally what I want from a competition - I prefer qualifying to be a single attempt at multiple games, in a league format, then have 4 player (PAPA style) semi and finals.
This isn't what people said they wanted - hence the change. People said they didn't want the same format as last year - hence the change. People said they wanted - from a show, rather than a dedicated comp, enough time to see the seminars, enough time to socialise, enough time to play the new machines. This format allows for that as well as allowing people who want to buy multiple tickets and focus their time on the comp the option to do so.

, in a huge tournament and it also has divisions
The major factor here isn't divisions - it is huge tournament. When the number of entrants starts getting up to 800 I'm sure whoever is running the comp will be willing to look at divisions.

There are always also major complaints about machines being in the competition and not available for 'general use'. Limiting the number of games to only 10 (1 x EM, 2 x Alpha-numeric, 3 x DMD & 4 New Stern/JJP), ideally chosen from games where multiple machines have been pledged, reduces that complaint. This format allows for a large throughput of those people wanting to play, without massive queues.

It is a big enough undertaking to run any comp, without having the logistics of running 2, let alone a 3rd classics comp, where suitable - tournament worthy machines are always low on availability, as seen from past shows and the current machine pledge page for NLP in a month.
 
Maybe it's the elephant in the room of 'cash' - so what do you reckon about dropping the cash pot, then lowering the cost of tickets + rebuys?
 
Seems people are still experiencing room booking issues at the hotel. You have to make sure you're talking directly to the hotel and not the central booking centre. You need to speak to either Hollie or Patrick and quote UKPinfest.
 
Me and the partner have that weekend off so will be looking forward to coming. What's the deal with bringing machines this year? Got a wedgehead that I will be restoring up next and wanted to contribute that to the line up

James
 
There's a mini kids tournament at flip expo today. I didn't know or I might have brought the girls.

Is there space for a proper kids comp at pinfest rather than just a high score on one machine? Not sure if there are enough kids interested to make it worthwhile, and it would take up space but might be a good way of getting more kids involved?

The adult comp is starting later and is a bit shorter because of it but I think that will still be run without issues.

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Hi everyone,
We are unfortunately now not able to attand PinFest this year.
If anyone is interested in buying 2 x VIP weekend entry tickets (Fri - Sun) can you contact me on j_d_lindsay @ yahoo .com please?
Thanks,
Jim Lindsay
 
@Wayne J did a great job running the comp at NLP/Expo the other year...

I think it worked well and everyone enjoyed it! I think the sticking point is prize fund... Who really cares about a prize fund... All proceeds after trophies should be donated to a charity which could be voted on by all players who enter.
 
Well if the prize fund is an issue, not sure it is. One idea is to give half to Phil if he loses money on show.If he don't maybe give to charity, something I think is a good idea
100% ok with that and how about something for the ladies and juniors.
I'm sure a couple will match my offer of 100 quid donation for trophies or prizes.
What yeah say @Neil McRae . Can't be leaving the future of the sport out of the loop.
 
Hi everyone,
We are unfortunately now not able to attand PinFest this year.
If anyone is interested in buying 2 x VIP weekend entry tickets (Fri - Sun) can you contact me on j_d_lindsay @ yahoo .com please?
Thanks,
Jim Lindsay

Jim, if you can't pass on the tickets, I'll issue a refund.
 
Steady on Neil, yourself and Poibug are starting to agree with each other on more and more stuff.
At this rate you will stood at the bar at Daventry buying each other drinks.

I think you'll find I did indeed buy Chris a beer last year!!
 
Is it necessary to have a competition? Some nice machines were out of bounds last year. I went to have a go on as many different machines as I could and was disappointed at not being able to play some , many of which were stood idle for a lot of the time. Charge a couple of quid extra and let them all loose, or leave a donation box for those who wish to offer more support.
I spent more on books than the show as my extra contribution.
 
The idea this year is to use duplicate machines in the competition so you shouldn't miss out on playing any.

Also, I believe the main benefit of a prize pot is attracting more and better players. Especially from Europe. Makes the trip worthwhile for them. Maybe they won't come this year but say first prize reaches £1k, it may gain their interest and attendance next year.
 
No comp means fewer turning up which means less money for Phil. Some folk might not like it but having a comp is incentive enough for some to turn up when they might not have otherwise.
And having duplicates for it as much as possible would be perfect too. It’s still a show with a comp rather than a comp show :)
 
There's many a time when people won't bring machines unless they're in the competition, other people insist their games are only in the public arena.

Every effort is made to try and ensure comp games are chosen from those games which there are duplicates of, but that's not always possible for many reasons.

There's no god given right for anybody to have access to each and every machine there as the probability is that certain machines wouldn't even make an appearance if they weren't in the comp lineup.

If people want to play the specific games in the comp lineup (which will all have been thoroughly tested and levelled beforehand) they can pay to enter. It's no different than having the latest games on pay to play at a launch party or high score comp which has happened multiple times in the past.
 
Why not have the comp like 8bit flip did where all machines are in genral play and to play a comp machine you just wait for the person playing it to finish then play your comp game, after that the machine is back in genral play for everyone.
To police this, comp players would need to play in pairs to verify each others scores.
It worked very well at 8bit flip.
And the bigest bonus is every machine can be played by everyone.
 
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My suggestion would be to use the other smaller room for the competition machines (the room that had the smaller virtual machines and some arcade stuff in last year)

Has many benefits eg people dont see machines they cant play in the general public area, competors dont have joe public bumping into them or annoying them etc.
Smaller Room could probably also be used for the league finals (if they are at daventry this year ??)

cheers
Ian
 
My suggestion would be to use the other smaller room for the competition machines (the room that had the smaller virtual machines and some arcade stuff in last year)

This was considered last year, but the doorway is too narrow for most modern machines.
 
No disrespect to any persons comments but shouldn't we just leave it up to @Big Phil and whoever is organising/running the tournaments , as it is his show and his 'ticket' was very expensive for last year :)

In my view this is a thread for the show so if people want to comment, winge, bitch about competition formats then why not start a new thread - best way to run a comp? :)

Lets not forget Daventry was only brought back to life last year and was way better than any of highwaymans previous efforts and I'm sure that this years will be even better so lets not knock it :)
 
I didn't think anyone was knocking it, last year was brilliant, and you are quite right that @Big Phil should have the final say.Constructive feed back is always good and my question was answered perfectly well.
I haven't been around long enough to appreciate the importance of the competition, so all good.
 
This was considered last year, but the doorway is too narrow for most modern machines.

Are the doors furthest from the front doors not a set of double doors? (I may have imaged that though as I was being forced to drink some alcohol)

Also not meant as criticism of anyones efforts, more trying to help. I know how easy it is to miss the most basic of things while you are fighting the big fights...
 
Only found out about a pinball event in Daventry today. Super excited to find such an amazing event not too far from my neck of the woods. Looked up a YouTube video of last year’s event and man, total eye candy to see so many recognisable tables in one place.

Wife and I are now on a mission to rope one of the Nan’s into agreeing to having the kids and we can then get some tickets booked.

Any suggestions on the best place to book tickets through? Please tell me we’e not too late and they’ve already sold out?!!!


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Only found out about a pinball event in Daventry today. Super excited to find such an amazing event not too far from my neck of the woods. Looked up a YouTube video of last year’s event and man, total eye candy to see so many recognisable tables in one place.

Wife and I are now on a mission to rope one of the Nan’s into agreeing to having the kids and we can then get some tickets booked.

Any suggestions on the best place to book tickets through? Please tell me we’e not too late and they’ve already sold out?!!!


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https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/uk-p...ugust-2019-tickets-50038241728?aff=erelexpmlt
 
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