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before 2004 you could not operate a pinball in the uk with out paying licence duty unless it was a skill game thats why early sterns had skill posts a company in birmigham converted them so they could be operator on a profit shire with out paying the duty pinballs where designed for making money I've a few of these games over the years and scraped them as the play field break up where they have been drilled

Luckily none of my machines have skill posts. When I started collecting I wasn't aware of this mod and would have happily bought one with it. However it is something I would avoid now.

I can see the skill post buttons but where are the posts on the play field. Really bad photos used..
 
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My Elvis has skill posts. It's no big deal to me. The extra buttons can be covered by the metal cab shields and you don't notice the posts when playing.

I'd happily take a cab with skill posts to save some money
 
they don't really bother me either, except that i am aware when it comes to resale that others may complain about them. oh, and it can be a bit annoying when the centre 'post' rotates so the picture no longer matches its surroundings. otherwise who cares, i can't imagine a playfield breaking apart during home use.
 
the ones Stern fitted for UK use is fine and acceptable . there was a heated discussion on the other group a year or so back after someone said a skill buttoned ELVIS was worthless even though the only ones in the UK should have them. technically if you have a LOTR ELVIS TSSP etc without skill posts in the UK you have a "grey" import

retro fitting them to older games caused damaged to the playfields and were an eyesore.
 
say that the additional buttons actually raised the posts?
Exactly, left button for left, right button for right and both to activate middle. I think the idea is that they pop up then fall hence the "skill" else you could just keep them raised. I didn't know what they were either and encountered the extra buttons at SWL (on TSPP I think) wondering what they did.
 
the ones Stern fitted for UK use is fine and acceptable . there was a heated discussion on the other group a year or so back after someone said a skill buttoned ELVIS was worthless even though the only ones in the UK should have them. technically if you have a LOTR ELVIS TSSP etc without skill posts in the UK you have a "grey" import

retro fitting them to older games caused damaged to the playfields and were an eyesore.
I thought there were later run UK versions of these games that don't have the skill posts?
 
Phil may know as he would have been selling thes games NIB. the only plus point is after blanking off the flipper buttons and deactivating them in the software you have 3 spare coils to use!
 
LW3 less than 3hrs to go, with faults £460 just now.

Could be a bit far north for most people!

Sorry can't provide a link as my phone's not playing.
 
Just to be clear about skill posts : i have a SM with a permanent post in between the two flippers. That's not a skill post, is it?
 
No, a small metal mini-post 'permanently' fixed between the flipper isn't a 'Skill Post'. It can of course be removed by an operator, or a knock-off manufacturer, as with the Spanish copy of Pin-Bot.

Somewhere in between a mini-post and a skill post is the 'Play-More' post, to use an old term. Developed after zipper flippers died out, a post rises to fill the flipper gap, but remains raised (or can do so*); I think 'Champion Pub' had one. Some older uses were (Williams) Space Shuttle, Fire!, Big Guns and Bally Atlantis.


* 'modern' games with one tend to have the device raised on a timed basis, but e/m games often leave it raised until a 'down' switch is operated, or the machine's tilted.
 
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200 is the going rate for the fan alone . did see it but yould have to be able to grab fast so if far away a gazumpers paradise
 
Phil may know as he would have been selling thes games NIB. the only plus point is after blanking off the flipper buttons and deactivating them in the software you have 3 spare coils to use!

Phil might remember, but I know for a fact as I own a later (1996 I think) UK model LOTR without skill posts and @astyy is correct the TSPP at Special When Lit has skill posts (disabled).
 
LOTR asking price £4k but open to offers and trades. Hard to tell condition wise from the pics and doesn't tell you anything from the description, but someone might get a good deal bearing in mind current pricing of LOTR. In East Yorks. @jonathan were you after one of these?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LORD-OF-THE-RINGS-LOTR-STERN-PINBALL-MACHINE/272251236430?_trksid=p2047675.c100011.m1850&_trkparms=aid=222007&algo=SIC.MBE&ao=1&asc=36925&meid=ccf35d82b06c4186a1cab38bc65951e6&pid=100011&rk=7&rkt=10&sd=252398849732
 
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