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Pins are in bars. That can be buying a pin. Or having an operator run a pin.
Inflation would have taken the price in five years to around £12.9k, so with stern games there is something from stern to electro coin and the dealers that is being added to the price to get to fifteen. Not sure on five year old game prices from other manufacturers but I don’t think they have had this much more increase as stern games
Just because pins are in bars doesn’t mean they make money or are played.
There is, however I believe stern are the issue, they insist on bulk purchase of a large number of units making it impossible for a small boutique business like pinball to do. You could buy from stern but the minimum unit order means in reality you can't. Electrocoin real business is gambling machines, so there able to take a hit without breaking a sweat. It probably done by stern because it's easier and no ones challenged it, shipping out small number of units to multiple suppliers in the UK could be a hassle, why bother when you insist on minimum unit orders regardless of actual sales and let the distro take the hit of a load of unsold units in there warehouses. The interesting thing will be how long will electcocoin do this for, if UK customers stop buying due to being priced out, there be a point when they can't have tons of very expensive stock sitting around for years.
Yep since the dawn of time
Just feels like they are on a money grab, which is why no one wants one. Too close to jaws and feels saturated by them
I think it’s a killer combination of a theme that not many people particularly wanted and which some buyers will not want in their homes, being too close to Jaws and Elwin (which IMO will become a classic in time), wider economy starting to bite, and a first time designer which might have made some nervous.
Good point. Jaws will keep me occupied for awhile yet. But why didn’t they sell any then? Not everyone bought into jaws!
Pricing being the big one, new designer and gungate according to more than one US distributor.
Totally agree. I like the thought of new blood designing games , keeps it fresh so I’d see that as a reason to buy vs not to . Also the designer was a mechanical engineer on games before to I think, so not that ‘new’ anyway. Elwins and dangers first games were hits aswell
It’s not a theory, it’s the info that’s come from at least two separate distributors, people are waiting to see how this one pans out or skipping all together.
The mechanical engineer, no one can name, Elliot Eisman btw.
His name on bond 60th didn’t help sales sterns biggest flop to date
That was because of Sterns joke of a price, it wouldn’t have sold a single unit without Elwin attached.
Yeh, I would agree having played it, the price is an absolute joke. If it had been £6k, removing the mechanical scoring mech it probably would have flown out. It's not bad game, bit basic but thats a personal preference as never been a fan of early style pins. It was absolutely pure greed to try and charge £25k for a basic pin and trying to big it up with Elwin name on it. It's personally back fired, the fact that electro coin have sited it a bewick street says it all. Still the pin in 30 years Neil might have the last laugh when it's worth more, but I can't see it. That if bond even last another 30 years
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I had a few games on it yesterday as well mate. It's a fast game but definitely didn't blow me away. I spent more time on Jaws
My review of the Pro at Funland (posted on Pinside):
