Yes, I love the music
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UPDATE: Changed the upper limit on price for the right pin. Looks like a BK LE has just gone for £1,880 on eBay and there’s a nice Electra on here for £2,200.
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Yes, I love the music
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UPDATE: Changed the upper limit on price for the right pin. Looks like a BK LE has just gone for £1,880 on eBay and there’s a nice Electra on here for £2,200.
Such a quirky game. Who thought of doing the 1812 with a duck type voice. Drugs were so much cooler back in the 80's lol
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I met one first in the flesh, so that's when I fell in love with one. Some games you see video of and think that looks great only to be let down once you've bought it / played it. It was that or a CV.... then I priced up a Cirquis Voltare and that was that, 1812 won! Something about the sound and music felt good so I wanted one.I’ve got to say that, unfortunately, 1812 didn’t wow me on Pinball Arcade
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A good shout, I've currently got a Speakeasy and ticks the boxes in terms of Poker theme, targets etc. I'd consider selling too as just taken delivery of another pin and space is now at a premium! Great condition @VeeMonroe if interested?
I haven’t, but I’ve just watched a video.
We wondered how often it turns into a slog where you can’t keep points on the board because you keep having to use the sacrifice button to reset the sequence in order to get the add-a-balls to keep playing?
Also, does it spin the roulette wheel only when you hit the holes, or also at the end of each ball?
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The sacrifice button comes in really handy, a great feature when you've almost got the right sequence lined up until a stray ball mucks up your plans, allows you to reset but doesn't start from the beginning, just gets rid of the out of sequence one - makes for a less frustrating play! There's other ways to get add-a-balls too, by hitting the playing card targets in sequence (I find this to be an easier way than the top sequence), or if you get lucky on the roulette wheel in the middle of the board, another feature that makes this pin great fun to play. If I did sell it would be a reluctant one as it looks and plays great in my home bar/poker room, great theme etc, but it's got way too cramped since I took delivery of another pin (and the wife isn't best pleased either!) Happy to send over some pics if interested, recently been serviced by James @MajesticPinball who did a great job as always
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Apologies, didn't see your last comment re. roulette wheel! Yes, it spins the wheel when you hit the holes and the end of each ball.
Ah, sadly, although it’s a really sweet little pin and most of what we want, the wheel spin at the end of each ball probably means it wouldn’t work for us
We tend to run ‘Friday Home League’ as a family already and my five year old is really competitive (he beat his dad last night and gloated about it
). I can imagine the random luck element would really bother him and I was also hoping to run competitive pinball events at our house once we have a critical mass of machines.
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No worries, our kids (6 and 8) love the feature as it gives them a chance to beat their Dad (although they hate it when it lands on lose a ball!!) I like it as it keeps game play interesting, but can appreciate it's not for everyone. Good luck with your search! (and if anyone else is reading this and interested in a Speakeasy, drop me a message!)Ah, sadly, although it’s a really sweet little pin and most of what we want, the wheel spin at the end of each ball probably means it wouldn’t work for us
We tend to run ‘Friday Home League’ as a family already and my five year old is really competitive (he beat his dad last night and gloated about it
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I’ve messaged the seller.
It looks legit - loads of photos of relevant stuff all taken in the same room. I’m trying to arrange a viewing.
He's legit, @BrianSoton is on here...
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Yup it's @BrianSoton - 100% legit
Paragon is my favourite game out of all the bally SS’s
I think it's gone TBH. I can't organise myself fast enough to view before Monday - we need to convert a cot tomorrow as my two year old has just escaped!
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After a detailed discussion within the family, we don’t think Paragon’s what we’re looking for.
We looked at it before, including the PAPA videos, and I’m specifically interested in a lot of drop targets, or heavily sequenced drop targets - so, Nine Ball is probably my ideal (I think that’s got four banks!).
We don’t have much space for pins and don’t really want to start selling in a hurry, so really want to put something together we’re happy with for a few years
We have had nearly two hours of discussion about Paragon this afternoon - really great price and a beautiful-looking machine!
We looked at it before, including the PAPA videos, and I’m specifically interested in a lot of drop targets, or heavily sequenced drop targets - so, Nine Ball is probably my ideal (I think that’s got four banks!).
We don’t have much space for pins and don’t really want to start selling in a hurry, so really want to put something together we’re happy with for a few years
We have had nearly two hours of discussion about Paragon this afternoon - really great price and a beautiful-looking machine!
Probably not worth having 2 hour discussions. Anything worth buying will be gone in 5mins. It's not a buyers market.After a detailed discussion within the family, we don’t think Paragon’s what we’re looking for.
We looked at it before, including the PAPA videos, and I’m specifically interested in a lot of drop targets, or heavily sequenced drop targets - so, Nine Ball is probably my ideal (I think that’s got four banks!).
We don’t have much space for pins and don’t really want to start selling in a hurry, so really want to put something together we’re happy with for a few years
We have had nearly two hours of discussion about Paragon this afternoon - really great price and a beautiful-looking machine!
We’ve been doing a small amount of research into why there’s an illiquid market in second-hand pinball machines right now, and what the actual market price is, internationally.
So, we are aware it is below market and, thus, will go quickly. We had a conversation with Brian, who is lovely, by text as well, about arranging a viewing on Monday, and - eventually - we decided we‘d rather get the exact thing we wanted at market price.
It was a real test for me thinking, really quite specifically, about what I’m looking for and why, how much we’re willing to pay and how long we plan to wait.
Don't over-think things. There is no international price for a Paragon or any other pinball machine....even NIB.
I don’t mean that.
People are willing to pay what they’re willing to pay, and you can get an idea of how much that is. If things are priced too high, they don’t move. If they’re priced too low, they go in seconds and - as a buyer - you need to be prepared to jump through hoops to buy.
I’ve ended up at both ends of the scale selling board games (I’ve sold ~2,000 to date). I’ve priced too high and got no movement. I’ve also had people desperately bidding at 6am on a Sunday morning because I’ve bargain basemented an auction for a quick sale, and I’ve had desperate bidders trying to get in before it closed.
There are apparently about 800 pinball machines in a warehouse in Chesterfield and I’m informed by the owner that it’s not worth selling them here in the UK because no one is willing to pay that much, but it’s worth shipping them off to collectors in Australia/the USA. Having shipped board games internationally, multiple times, including to Australia, I’m aware that this - if true - is quite a big deal.
Prices in Europe are above UK prices at moment, tried to ship some and they want well above UK fully working serviced prices for machines needing work plus shipping 
I've also found that the opposite is true. If you price something too low nobody is interested and it will sit there for weeks and those that are interested want a big discount off that price. Whereas if you relist it at double the price so people can make offers in line with what you originally wanted it will sell straight away for the full asking price. People are weird. They prefer to pay more for the same thing and be reassured by that.
Yeah. I’ve had that too. If you price it really really low (hopefully by accident
), people assume there’s something wrong with it.I eBay’d an original Game Boy in blue without realising that it was a collectable colour. I got really worried emails, “What condition it is in? Can I have photos of the back/underside/inside the shell? What’s wrong with it?” Eventually, someone explained, and I took it down and re-listed.
Yeah. That’s basically it. There are pinball machines being shipped out of the UK because you can get more money in Europe/Australia/the US.Prices in Europe are above UK prices at moment, tried to ship some and they want well above UK fully working serviced prices for machines needing work plus shipping
This means that you don’t have as much choice here.
Yes I have this all the time. Pricing for quick sales just turns it into unsaleable every time. And trying to give stuff away for free....well that's a whole other nightmareYeah. I’ve had that too. If you price it really really low (hopefully by accident
I eBay’d an original Game Boy in blue without realising that it was a collectable colour. I got really worried emails, “What condition it is in? Can I have photos of the back/underside/inside the shell? What’s wrong with it?” Eventually, someone explained, and I took it down and re-listed.
I try to bundle things together… but I doubt “Buy this Medieval Madness and get a Bugs Bunny’s Birthday Ball for free“ would really work in pinball
