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Blues Brothers… but by HomePin
- Thread starter JustLikeMe
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I thought it was a little brutal as well LOL where is stumbler who loves all pinball gone haha
Colordmd was not ever open source.
But Pin2dmd was initially - then the guy from spain or somewhere ripped it off. God - I forgot his name. Did the hideous CFTBL mod too....
Pin2dmd got their pants in a twist and started charging 'donations' to get a serial number.
Shame most the code was ripped off Russ's Pindmd code.
Also John read what I posted earlier. Everything can be seen and changed on proper open source. File replacement for audio/video is not only against copyright/publishing laws in the UK it is not what open source means. The Linux OS is totally opensource along with Firefox, Python, VLC player, Libre Office.
What you should be able to do is rewrite the game totally - even rethemeing it (but nothing wrong with the theme).
It goes from the old 'homepin' method of changing a whole module to update code (or send it to your dealer) as the previous games did not even have a USB update socket to (maybe) being to access everything.
No I havent been hanging around anywhere with a camera...... this is the Visual Pinball version of Blues Brothers.
Who would be happy to see a game like this?
Are rethemes a way to go these days?
Hello Phil,
I would love to share more but, as expected, all the trolls come out without ever having seen even a drawing of the machine, just amazing!
Not really prepared to say any more because the trolls commenting are never going to be customers anyway. Anyone serious can contact myself or David at Retro Arcade Specialists.
I will say, and have said it from the start of this project, it is a budget machine at a budget price aimed at 'man cave' buyers NOT pinball enthusiasts. They have lots of choices, the 'man cave' buyer does not. Sure, some pinball collectors will buy this machine but that is NOT my main or even my target market. This concept seems difficult for some trolls to accept.
I guess they will all be happy when it's only Stern left making mediocre quality machines at rip-off prices! (try finding a node board for your Stern in 5 years time - good luck).
Then why tease that you have a new game?
You have been in the pinball machine manufacturing game for over 10 years, and you have always whined about being trolled
IMHO it would be smarter to stay quiet until you were ready to release pictures/video/details
When all you offer is a teaser of a picture of an upcoming game, then you will get speculation
Isn't that seawitch/beatles?
Usual sucky attitude from Mike. It's not for you lot. Then why are you here?
Their 2 games so far suck. I can only hope they get the licence cut from under them like what happened with godzilla.
I’m genuinely confused now at who the target market really is.
I get the idea that some people just want basic games but won’t pay high prices as they just want an occasional knock about.
So who’s going to be mucking about with open source code then? Surely the knockabout lot wont be? Learning to use any specialist coding tools and writing rules sounds pretty hardcore to me.
I get the idea that some people just want basic games but won’t pay high prices as they just want an occasional knock about.
So who’s going to be mucking about with open source code then? Surely the knockabout lot wont be? Learning to use any specialist coding tools and writing rules sounds pretty hardcore to me.
sure the licensor is going to be really happy with none approved assets. The idea literally screams pirate music.
Potential tie up for promotion then:
Radio Caroline
Radio Caroline continues – with music from the past and present on DAB in selected UK towns & cities and on 648 AM to South East England, The Netherlands, Belgium and beyond
I will clarify a few things that some of you don't seem to be able to grasp and please, stop reading things into what is said to suit your own negative agendas!
There is a need for a budget priced pinball machine. Currently, people with a pool table etc at home can't justify adding a pinball machine.
These people ARE NOT pinball "expert players" and they aren't interested in the boll-o-c-k-s that goes on with sites like this so they will never see any of your "charming, supportive" comments.
However, some of our customers, probably about 20%, ARE pinball collectors, good players etc and they appreciate what we do. They contact me from time to time asking for replacement T2's etc for their desks etc. On the whole, we have quite a lot of very happy customers. In the main, they choose to not comment here and on other sites as they usually get hounded or shot down by the vocal few loud mouths.
That's why the press release went out to Pinball Magazine to inform these potential customers, 20% of our customers.
The reason for the timing is we are exhibiting this machine (a mock up) at the arcade show this week. It will make the news if we did nothing so I pre-empted that. We pushed ourselves to get this ready for the show primarily so a fully finished machine will be ready to exhibit at Newcastle Pinfest in September. We are also donating one of these for a raffle to help the show organisers raise additional money for their charity this year.
Contrary to what some think, IP owners are already well aware of the trolling and idiotic comments made on sites like this and they 100% ignore your negative messages. How do I know this? I have been told directly by two different agencies now, they don't care what you say.
Heck, with Thunderbirds, I even had a well known pinball "personality" contact ITV and try to discredit me to get them to pull my licence - ITV phoned me and basically called him a "trouble maker" using stronger words than that. So if you think that the IP owners will pull a licence after three years of negotiations, contracts signed and substantial monies paid then go ahead and see how they treat you.
This is a BUDGET machine with minimal features and open source code that will be supplied from the factory fully working, with finished code. The opportunity is there for 'boffins' (and these people are NOT necessarily pinball collectors) to modify the code if they wish and share that with others. This is something that might take off, it might not. We will warranty the machine if it is running our code OR code approved by the moderators of our forum (forum available only to buyers of the machine). All Homepin electronics has a lifetime warranty - how are you going with your broken node boards fellas?
We stand behind the products we make which is a lot more than most other pinball manufacturers.
The machine will be supplied with some fully licenced music - the music has NOTHING to do with the IP owners, zero. It is a different licence to a record company - neither of them have any interest in what the other is licencing. Home owners can add or change what they like for their own use.
WE will release more information as it is warranted and also as the licence owner approves things. This all takes a lot more time that most understand.
There is a need for a budget priced pinball machine. Currently, people with a pool table etc at home can't justify adding a pinball machine.
These people ARE NOT pinball "expert players" and they aren't interested in the boll-o-c-k-s that goes on with sites like this so they will never see any of your "charming, supportive" comments.
However, some of our customers, probably about 20%, ARE pinball collectors, good players etc and they appreciate what we do. They contact me from time to time asking for replacement T2's etc for their desks etc. On the whole, we have quite a lot of very happy customers. In the main, they choose to not comment here and on other sites as they usually get hounded or shot down by the vocal few loud mouths.
That's why the press release went out to Pinball Magazine to inform these potential customers, 20% of our customers.
The reason for the timing is we are exhibiting this machine (a mock up) at the arcade show this week. It will make the news if we did nothing so I pre-empted that. We pushed ourselves to get this ready for the show primarily so a fully finished machine will be ready to exhibit at Newcastle Pinfest in September. We are also donating one of these for a raffle to help the show organisers raise additional money for their charity this year.
Contrary to what some think, IP owners are already well aware of the trolling and idiotic comments made on sites like this and they 100% ignore your negative messages. How do I know this? I have been told directly by two different agencies now, they don't care what you say.
Heck, with Thunderbirds, I even had a well known pinball "personality" contact ITV and try to discredit me to get them to pull my licence - ITV phoned me and basically called him a "trouble maker" using stronger words than that. So if you think that the IP owners will pull a licence after three years of negotiations, contracts signed and substantial monies paid then go ahead and see how they treat you.
This is a BUDGET machine with minimal features and open source code that will be supplied from the factory fully working, with finished code. The opportunity is there for 'boffins' (and these people are NOT necessarily pinball collectors) to modify the code if they wish and share that with others. This is something that might take off, it might not. We will warranty the machine if it is running our code OR code approved by the moderators of our forum (forum available only to buyers of the machine). All Homepin electronics has a lifetime warranty - how are you going with your broken node boards fellas?
We stand behind the products we make which is a lot more than most other pinball manufacturers.
The machine will be supplied with some fully licenced music - the music has NOTHING to do with the IP owners, zero. It is a different licence to a record company - neither of them have any interest in what the other is licencing. Home owners can add or change what they like for their own use.
WE will release more information as it is warranted and also as the licence owner approves things. This all takes a lot more time that most understand.
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Agreed!
Not trolling but a 'budget' game that has minimal features for non pinhead that have to do open source stuff seems a strange option for the non pinhead that might want a pinball when lots of 90s era games are loaded with great themes and code and are already sub £5k and will tick the man cave box just fine.
Enter the market with a great game with great code and theme and compete with the others but trying to create a niche market that doesn't exist to justify it seems a big gamble.
Might sell better than Barry Os bbq hot rod shambles....
Enter the market with a great game with great code and theme and compete with the others but trying to create a niche market that doesn't exist to justify it seems a big gamble.
Might sell better than Barry Os bbq hot rod shambles....
Ah the Cretin which is PinballSP
Newcastle in Australia
I think I will easily get a node board for a stern in 5 years
How about a cpu board for thunderbirds?
Maybe throw in a Ben Heck board?
How about a cpu board for thunderbirds?
Maybe throw in a Ben Heck board?
Ashbo
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I have no skin in the game, no room for a pool table or any more pins, but I like the concept as my desire to tinker with pinball machines is stronger than the desire to play them. Retheming classics seems like sacrilege, so this idea or even perhaps a build your own kit may be a workable idea too? I wish you good luck.
What a strange response, why bother posting on here, if every one's a troll. There was some legitimate questions.
I had some interest at the price point and the open source, but with responses like that hell no.
What absolute nonsense regarding node boards I have a 2016 Ghostbusters spike 1, it's now 8 years old, I was easily able to buy a replacement node board and could have got it repaired. Node boards are generic and downward compatible, they have been designed like that. The issue with repairing is the micro soldering that does require some skill, unlike the giant boards of old.
Normally when your trying to market a product you show it off and provide as much info as your willing, otherwise you keep quite and avoid.
You don't know who's reading, what there looking to buy, the pinball market is small, most people which includes the elusive casual player simply wouldn't buy one regardless of cost, due to the size and noise. Most wife's, partners wouldn't allow one in the house. None of my wife's friends or any of my work colleagues and it's predominantly woman I work with at least 100, wouldn't allow one in the house. I have yet to meet a normal person who said to me wow can you get hold of one for me!
I did a charity event at work for disadvantaged young people and bought in 5, at least half the kids after the initial reaction showed zero interest and all I got from the work colleagues was, god there noisy
and a couple now hate foo fighters songs.
With a product like pinball you take any customer you can get, because regardless of what we might think it's a small market. 4,000 machines sold worldwide is absolutely*** all. Look at abba the biggest band, mama Mia west end show, a virtual tour in London that's mostly always sold out a massive dinner event at the 02, with a nightly audience in the thousands, two movies and how many pinball machines are they making 800. Sums it up!
I had some interest at the price point and the open source, but with responses like that hell no.
What absolute nonsense regarding node boards I have a 2016 Ghostbusters spike 1, it's now 8 years old, I was easily able to buy a replacement node board and could have got it repaired. Node boards are generic and downward compatible, they have been designed like that. The issue with repairing is the micro soldering that does require some skill, unlike the giant boards of old.
Normally when your trying to market a product you show it off and provide as much info as your willing, otherwise you keep quite and avoid.
You don't know who's reading, what there looking to buy, the pinball market is small, most people which includes the elusive casual player simply wouldn't buy one regardless of cost, due to the size and noise. Most wife's, partners wouldn't allow one in the house. None of my wife's friends or any of my work colleagues and it's predominantly woman I work with at least 100, wouldn't allow one in the house. I have yet to meet a normal person who said to me wow can you get hold of one for me!
I did a charity event at work for disadvantaged young people and bought in 5, at least half the kids after the initial reaction showed zero interest and all I got from the work colleagues was, god there noisy
and a couple now hate foo fighters songs.With a product like pinball you take any customer you can get, because regardless of what we might think it's a small market. 4,000 machines sold worldwide is absolutely*** all. Look at abba the biggest band, mama Mia west end show, a virtual tour in London that's mostly always sold out a massive dinner event at the 02, with a nightly audience in the thousands, two movies and how many pinball machines are they making 800. Sums it up!
Hey @Homepin
I respect what you do as an electrical engineer. Your communication skills need work! I’d try to ignore the criticism where possible and try not to inflict negative publicity on your own company.
Some people don’t like your games, just ignore it. Don’t try and defend yourself just try and make a better product in the future.
As others have said, Blues Brothers is a wanted theme for quite a number of people, they only want what they see as ‘ justice being done’ for the IP.
Don’t forget, Stern get a lot of criticism as well, but with them being a much bigger company, they have people to deal with it who aren’t involved with the making of the product from start to finish like you are.
Don’t take things so personally and try and spread some love
I respect what you do as an electrical engineer. Your communication skills need work! I’d try to ignore the criticism where possible and try not to inflict negative publicity on your own company.
Some people don’t like your games, just ignore it. Don’t try and defend yourself just try and make a better product in the future.
As others have said, Blues Brothers is a wanted theme for quite a number of people, they only want what they see as ‘ justice being done’ for the IP.
Don’t forget, Stern get a lot of criticism as well, but with them being a much bigger company, they have people to deal with it who aren’t involved with the making of the product from start to finish like you are.
Don’t take things so personally and try and spread some love
Hey @Homepin
I respect what you do as an electrical engineer. Your communication skills need work! I’d try to ignore the criticism where possible and try not to inflict negative publicity on your own company.
Some people don’t like your games, just ignore it. Don’t try and defend yourself just try and make a better product in the future.
As others have said, Blues Brothers is a wanted theme for quite a number of people, they only want what they see as ‘ justice being done’ for the IP.
Don’t forget, Stern get a lot of criticism as well, but with them being a much bigger company, they have people to deal with it who aren’t involved with the making of the product from start to finish like you are.
Don’t take things so personally and try and spread some love
The one comment that made me laugh was "we don't want you making Blues Brothers"........OK, put up your own money and make it yourself then, I did!!!
Seriously, that's the dumbest thing I have read on here!
You are right, there is NOTHING I could say or attempt to explain to people who will never have an opportunity to make a machine so all they can do is tear down anyone who tries.
I guess I shouldn't bother trying to share my love for the game with people who are ONLY interested in new Sterns with all the bells and whistles.
There is no issue with not selling to people on here because of what I said, they were NEVER buyers anyway regardless of what the say here to beat their chests in front of their perceived mates!
I know who my customers are and I'll just stick with them and keep them happy.
As far as the comment about Stern node boards, you need to look further, there are already machines that have been out of action for a year because of no availability node boards...this will get worse not better.
Anyway, very easy to see why no manufacturers comment on here.
Your wasting your time.Hey @Homepin
I respect what you do as an electrical engineer. Your communication skills need work! I’d try to ignore the criticism where possible and try not to inflict negative publicity on your own company.
Some people don’t like your games, just ignore it. Don’t try and defend yourself just try and make a better product in the future.
As others have said, Blues Brothers is a wanted theme for quite a number of people, they only want what they see as ‘ justice being done’ for the IP.
Don’t forget, Stern get a lot of criticism as well, but with them being a much bigger company, they have people to deal with it who aren’t involved with the making of the product from start to finish like you are.
Don’t take things so personally and try and spread some love
His response sums it up.
I love American pinball, interested in P3 but yet to play one, like pinball brothers but not the way it came to market, barrell of fun and all the others. Most people want more pin manufacturers all we ask is for a playable game. Themes are like marmite some like some don't.
And in an ideal world cheaper! Even at £5k it's a lot of money for most people
$5000 is still high for almost everyone for what essentially is a giant man toy. Now under 1000 that ls a different prospect. Would you write off £4000? The current issue is unfortunately the reality of new pins is just unaffordable. A NITB pin priced at £5k is an interesting prospect. I will reserve judgement on it until I play it, but having spent £6,000 on the pin I own and a further £1,000 fully restoring it, I'm not homepin target market.
I’d buy this LOL got that beatles feel!
Yeah, you’ve missed about 10,500 miles.
haha!!! guess its Oz is it ?
Really homepin should be making things like kits for people who want to build there own games. You could sell a board set with basic code in it for £1500 - £2000 and make more than what you will make selling a pinball over here for £6K (by the time it lands it will be). All the shipping costs of getting pins around the world, all the cuts to all the distributors.
After working in pinball manufacturing in the disasterous early days of Heighway (not the later disasterous days of Heighway) - I bet you will not see any profit until the 3rd game using a specific boardset.
If there is a shortage of stern node boards, then make them. If you can not get a specific part then redesign them. This is what Sound Leisure had to do with their controller boards for jukeboxes. I know there is a shortage of System 11 boards, Stern whitestar/SAM boards as well.
In the other industry I work in (music) - I can not make profit making guitars - I can make profit repairing them.
I am unsure if any Spinal Tap machines have been sold. Very few Thunderbirds came over and they made a big loss at your UK distro.
After working in pinball manufacturing in the disasterous early days of Heighway (not the later disasterous days of Heighway) - I bet you will not see any profit until the 3rd game using a specific boardset.
If there is a shortage of stern node boards, then make them. If you can not get a specific part then redesign them. This is what Sound Leisure had to do with their controller boards for jukeboxes. I know there is a shortage of System 11 boards, Stern whitestar/SAM boards as well.
In the other industry I work in (music) - I can not make profit making guitars - I can make profit repairing them.
I am unsure if any Spinal Tap machines have been sold. Very few Thunderbirds came over and they made a big loss at your UK distro.
