all ponies must be happy and pink?
I expect it's a clopping reference (waits for the google searches) lol
all ponies must be happy and pink?
I expect it's a clopping reference (waits for the google searches) lol
Thought Clopping was masturbation?
Odd thing to have as a rule? lol
Got myself into trouble at work a few months ago when I discovered the concept of "pony girls" was perceived as deviant and I was coming over as an expert on the subject. Went down about as well as my previous conversation on Furverts
Thought Clopping was masturbation?
For what it's worth, this is the correct definition.
Now you know, and knowing is half the battle.
I was right? I'm wasted here lol
I must admit to being the original poster about Wez's prices. I did not intend to accuse him of profiteering or being a bad person, I just felt that he had been mis-led as to the value of his games! If a newbie sees that Wez is a regular poster on the group and assumes that this is a fair price they would be in the position of having paid over the odds on their first machine and may not decide to stay in the hobby having got their fingers burnt! If i offered my Farfalla for sale at £1000 on the group and nobody pulled me up on it, how can we protect people from over-paying? I don't begrudge anyone selling a mchine for more than they paid, as long as they got the machine for a cheap price, rather than paying the going rate and asking for more!I think someone needs to write up an etiquette guide. Probably suitable for both this forum and the group.
Rule #1 - Don't publicly criticise the price that someone has listed something. It makes no sense. If it's too much, then it won't sell. Leave it to the seller to have some common sense and realise that if the item doesn't sell, they will have to reduce the price.
I base my 'Value' of a machine on experience and current market trends. The only thing i would disagree with you over is that i believe sellers asking for higher prices has pushed the perceived value of machines upwards.But who sets the 'correct' value of games? In my eyes its the buyers, not the sellers. One example of Farfalla selling at £1000 would be an exception, but if dozens started selling for that price, then for whatever reason, that becomes the going rate. You can't say 'oh its not worth that', because clearly ... it is, for at least a dozen buyers.
I think we've all seen the price increases over the last few years, but it's not because of sellers overpricing their machines, its just down to supply and demand. The shows that make these machines popular to new audiences is increasing demand, and yet there are no more of these classic machines made.
Anyhow. All in my humble opinion of course. And yep Matt, I know you well enough to understand no harm was intended with your comments! I just think this is a debate thats long overdue, and recent events make it a relevant one.
I know this is a bit of a dream but if we value our community here and I think most of us do then hear me out and we could help each other and benefit.
Most of us agree ebay is a bad place to sell or buy a pin.
When a pin appears here for sale there are lots of posts saying something like if only I had the cash, or if it were a few months down the line etc.
Say those of us that wanted to (30 or more) each gave a trusted chair person £100 as a group float. 30 people =£3000, 40 =£4000 etc.
When someone needs to sell a machine or wants to for what ever reason, if no one on the group could afford it or wanted it at that time, a few trusted members (those in this would all trust each other right?) would value the machine, better still would be able to see it because between us we should all be near someone, offer a price and if the price was agreed the club float would buy that machine and it would be floating until such a time one of the members paid the money back into the float and then the machine would be his/hers.
It keeps machines in the community, no ebay/paypal fees, none of the nightmares that go with it, it gets someone quick cash to act on another deal as it often happens and it also give one of us time to save and get the pin that we could not afford at that moment in time and the price would not inflate down the line. Once the machine is in the float its price would remain at that price, once out of it that then has nothing to do with the venture and if it ever came in again it would be valued again.
Now I know there are lots of pitfalls and other legalities but given some thought it could work, I would not miss £100 too much and it is only like putting it in the bank.
Don't all shoot me down in flames, it is just an idea.
Cheers Adie