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Backglass paint - Bullwinkles nose!

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Hi guys,
My Rocky & Bullwinkle suffers from paint scratched off in the Bullwinkles nose area. This seems quite common, and every one I've seen has the same issue, cause by a pivot for Bullwinkles arm directly behind this area.
I have put padding on the pivot to prevent it happening again, and now I would like to repair the missing paint.

It seems someone has already done this quite successfully, but it has scratched off again.

So my question is, firstly does anyone know the type of paint I should get for painting on the backglass (it is a proper backglass, not translate). Also, does anyone know the closest colour?

Secondly, to make a neat job I was thinking I would firstly remove the existing paint which has been used to repair this area, rather than painting on top of the old paint.

My other idea, which I'm not sure how feasible it actually is, is to make a sticker to go on the ourside of the backglass to cover this area - but I'm not sure how I would get this in a format to print!

Anyway, any advice would be gratefully received,

Cheers, Mark
 
Right, I have decided that the best way to do this would be to pain on some clear plastic sheets to make sure the colour match is ok before I paint it on, but the next thing I need to work out is what type of paint to use - ideally something that paints on glass and would be good if it let the light through a little like the original does. Any idea what type of paint I should look for?
Also, any advice on how to get the right colour match - is it just a case of mixing colours until I get it right. It is a slightly orangy brown so I was thinking orange and brown, with maybe black/white to darken or lighten as appropriate? Or am I going about it the wrong way altogether?
Cheers, Mark
 
Hi Abaxas, yes this is what I was thinking. Someone has done this repair previously and made quite a good job of it (you can't see unless you play in the dark and you can them see where the light doesn't shine through). However, it is scratched off again, so it needs doing again.

My thoughts were to carefully mask off the trouble area with masking tape, then using something (white spirit?) to clear off all the paint to get it back to glass, then re paint with the correct colour.

Agree there is room for me to make it worse, but I'm not in a hurry to do it and would rather take my time to prepare and make sure I do it right!

Thanks Carl, thanks for that, will see what I can find.

Thanks all,

Mark
 
When you have mixed your paint and are happy with the colour apply it to the FRONT of the backglass and allow it to dry. This means you can be sure the colour is a good match before painting the graphic area on the reverse. Remember that most paints will dry slightly darker than they are when wet.
You can simply scrape the paint off the front when done.
 
Thanks Pastiche, good idea!
I've had a look for "Acrylic latex" paint and not come up with anything - is this what I should be searching for for suitable paint? Also, what colours are suggested to get a suitable shade for Bullwinkles nose - it is a sort of orangy brown!
Cheers, Mark
 
I'm interested to see how your glass turns out. Please share before and after pictures.

My RAB glass has some scratches on it too. It makes me sad :(
 
lukewells said:
I'm interested to see how your glass turns out. Please share before and after pictures.

My RAB glass has some scratches on it too. It makes me sad :(
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As long the scratches are not in the mirrored part they should be able to be repaired.
 
I am about to have a go at some serious restoration of my Flash backglass. I will be trying out different types of paint and various ways of applying it. I will post some before and after pictures and let you know how I get on.
Wish me luck!!
 
pastiche said:
I am about to have a go at some serious restoration of my Flash backglass. I will be trying out different types of paint and various ways of applying it. I will post some before and after pictures and let you know how I get on.
Wish me luck!!
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Sounds like you are taking on a difficult job there, good luck and look forward to the progress report.
 
I'd be interested to hear how you get on too please Mark. My R&B nose is exactly the same which is a shame because the rest of the backglass is in pristine condition.

It's on the list of annoyances that i've yet to fix, including the shark bite out the back corner of the cab.

I can't locate it right now but I did find an article online which documented a mod you can do to prevent the problem from repeating. If I remember correctly it involved removing the screw that holds the arm in place and trimming a few millimeters from the end of it so when tightened the head sits further away from the glass.
 
No problem, I will definitely post some before and after pics - but might be a little while as I will need to fold down R&B for a short while to make some room for another purchase.

To prevent the problem repeating I've done a very simple mod - I have put a sticky felt pad on the pivot - it holds nicely in place (and has done for a while) and if the glass touches, it is only very soft and not at all scratchy! I will post a picture of this too when I get a chance.

If only they came out of the factory like that! At least this one only has the scratch on Bullwinkles nose, my other 2 previous R&B's have had scratches in other areas which would have been harder to fix!

Cheers, Mark
 
Ha ha replica's, just what I was thinking! Maybe I will put in a red bulb for Christmas :)

Cheers, Mark
 
I'm guessing you didn't do anything with this in the end Mark? I seem to recall you looking to move your R&B on?

Well i'm rapidly getting to the point where I want to sort my backglass out. I've got the replacement arm and i'm having a couple of mm shaved off the metal pivot point so once that's done there's really no excuse for not sorting the artwork out.

I've been looking into glass paints and it looks like the selection of opaque colours is a bit limited. This makes it pretty clear to me that the only option is to mix the colour myself so this is going to take some time and care to get right. The plan is therefore to get the paints in yellow, red and blue so that I can then mix up the correct shade. Bullwinkles nose is somewhere between an orange and a brown so hopefully with those three colours I can mix up the right combination. I've also got to order a black as i've managed to lift the outline at the bottom of his nose.

The plan will be to pain in the outline first and then fill in the colour. I may have to strip a little of the paint back but i'll see how it goes.

More news hopefully soon.
 
No update from me as yet - I keep meaning to pop into Hobbycraft each time I go over to Hull to see what glass paints they have in stock but i've not got around to it as yet.

We've got another respite date booked towards the end of October so i'll hopefully go then - it's certainly moving up my list as things with the cabinet progress because when I stick it all back together i'd ideally like the backglass to look pristine too.

So hopefully more news towards the end of October. I'm planning on taking the backglass with me so I can do a comparison or get some help from a staff member on finding the best match or a combination of paints so I can mix up a test batch. I'll most likely apply to the front first and if the colour match is good enough I can wipe it off and do it from behind (oo-er).
 
My old Genie backglass,that was removed due to the Ramones retheme,had a touched up glass(not surpising looking at the "art":thumbs:),and they did a killer job.
I should have asked what paint used as when lit up it looked good
 
Mark said:
Hi guys,
My Rocky & Bullwinkle suffers from paint scratched off in the Bullwinkles nose area. This seems quite common, and every one I've seen has the same issue, cause by a pivot for Bullwinkles arm directly behind this area.
I have put padding on the pivot to prevent it happening again, and now I would like to repair the missing paint.

It seems someone has already done this quite successfully, but it has scratched off again.

So my question is, firstly does anyone know the type of paint I should get for painting on the backglass (it is a proper backglass, not translate). Also, does anyone know the closest colour?

Secondly, to make a neat job I was thinking I would firstly remove the existing paint which has been used to repair this area, rather than painting on top of the old paint.

My other idea, which I'm not sure how feasible it actually is, is to make a sticker to go on the ourside of the backglass to cover this area - but I'm not sure how I would get this in a format to print!

Anyway, any advice would be gratefully received,

Cheers, Mark
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septum damaged eh?always knew that animal was a coke head:p:confused:
 
pastiche said:
I am about to have a go at some serious restoration of my Flash backglass. I will be trying out different types of paint and various ways of applying it. I will post some before and after pictures and let you know how I get on.
Wish me luck!!
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Just starting on gorgar !!
Have you triple thick crystal clear glaze it first?
 
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