I'm still waiting for my $11.5k cheque and my game.......
Who wants to collect for me? I'm a loving father and husband to if that helps, FFS... what a joke
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I'm still waiting for my $11.5k cheque and my game.......
Who wants to collect for me? I'm a loving father and husband to if that helps, FFS... what a joke
Ouch 
Comments on that Facebook post make for great reading!
Get the popcorn ready...
Comments on that Facebook post make for great reading!Get the popcorn ready...
Saw something about this at the weekend on Pinside and was thinking of you Jim.
It kind of started here: https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/american-pinballhoudini-will-be-at-pinball-expo when Mike Pacak announced there might be a new JPop machine appearing at Expo. Naturally, the **** hit the fan and Mike seemed a bit ignorant of the whole situation.
In asking for clarity it was then that American Pinball announced they'd 'make good' on JPop's bad credit. And most amazingly (at least with Magic Girl) - by the end of the year?! So yes, if nothing else the timescale sounds ridiculous. Plus no mention of the other machines (RAZA, AIW?), plus no mention of vendors that JPop was in debt with.
American Pinball seems doomed to instant failure. But who knows. Maybe they really do have incredibly deep pockets, and if that is the case then it could be the best thing to happen for a long time...
It kind of started here: https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/american-pinballhoudini-will-be-at-pinball-expo when Mike Pacak announced there might be a new JPop machine appearing at Expo. Naturally, the **** hit the fan and Mike seemed a bit ignorant of the whole situation.
In asking for clarity it was then that American Pinball announced they'd 'make good' on JPop's bad credit. And most amazingly (at least with Magic Girl) - by the end of the year?! So yes, if nothing else the timescale sounds ridiculous. Plus no mention of the other machines (RAZA, AIW?), plus no mention of vendors that JPop was in debt with.
American Pinball seems doomed to instant failure. But who knows. Maybe they really do have incredibly deep pockets, and if that is the case then it could be the best thing to happen for a long time...
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jim if you want me to hassle them on site let me know
A kick in the teeth for sure. I know how being 'pinripped' feels but on your level, i'd be laying mushroom clouds. I wont even own a Jflop game because of that c*nts trick he pulled. It'd be like owning Jimmy Savilles Rolls Royce to me.
Looks like a group of folk are planning on confronting AP at the upcoming expo. I'd certainly like to see what transpires, but you can put money on Jflop not being there.
Looks like a group of folk are planning on confronting AP at the upcoming expo. I'd certainly like to see what transpires, but you can put money on Jflop not being there.
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jpop is supposed to be doing a few things at the expo...
Hiding ?
http://www.pinballnews.com/news/americanpinball2.html
No wonder they were hiding up in a hotel room. Pinside has the pitchforks out for JPop (and for good reason). However, the angry mob should hold off rather than hassling AP and effectively lessening their chances of actually receiving their promised Magic Girl machines. If AP succeed, perhaps they will honour the other machines jpop took money for. Fingers crossed for all of you with money in this. I listened to an interview with jpop last night. He really was incredibly naive as a businessman, I don't think he meant to rip anyone off but he clearly hasn't a clue how to run a business.
No wonder they were hiding up in a hotel room. Pinside has the pitchforks out for JPop (and for good reason). However, the angry mob should hold off rather than hassling AP and effectively lessening their chances of actually receiving their promised Magic Girl machines. If AP succeed, perhaps they will honour the other machines jpop took money for. Fingers crossed for all of you with money in this. I listened to an interview with jpop last night. He really was incredibly naive as a businessman, I don't think he meant to rip anyone off but he clearly hasn't a clue how to run a business.
Very interesting read. Let's see if this actually comes off.
JFLOP - best pun yet. Love it.
I've never run my own business, although I have a few close friends who have/do and have spoken at length about it. But to me, the basics seems simple enough:
MONEY IN minus RUNNING COSTS minus MATERIALS needs to be greater than ZERO.
Delivering GOODS or SERVICES in return for PAYMENT is the core definition of a commercial business.
I've never run my own business, although I have a few close friends who have/do and have spoken at length about it. But to me, the basics seems simple enough:
MONEY IN minus RUNNING COSTS minus MATERIALS needs to be greater than ZERO.
Delivering GOODS or SERVICES in return for PAYMENT is the core definition of a commercial business.
I wish them all the best. However, they won't get a penny off me until I see something good, for sale, that interests me & is relatively affordable.
The current market often feels like a cartel, because pinballs really shouldn't cost £7000!
And it desperately needs new design blood, so I hope they invest properly in that area.
They certainly sound like the Apple of the pin-world, vs. the others, with the business acumen and manufacturering prowess.
The current market often feels like a cartel, because pinballs really shouldn't cost £7000!
And it desperately needs new design blood, so I hope they invest properly in that area.
They certainly sound like the Apple of the pin-world, vs. the others, with the business acumen and manufacturering prowess.
they should sort out those out of pocket first then promote the new game from a fresh start. shame no millionaire could step in and help with the Predator debarcle. And thanks for the post about Savilles roller. I had a nightmare vision of a "fix it" pinball with a rocking off its axle seedy caravan a la the engine in Corvette
back to topic.. Alice in Wonderland - very interested to see that one. £7 grand Houdini? nah Ill stick to TOM and PM
back to topic.. Alice in Wonderland - very interested to see that one. £7 grand Houdini? nah Ill stick to TOM and PM
I can't believe the legs haven't had a serious modification over the years.
I don't get why a new company would get involved in Popadopalopadiuk's previous screwups, bad reputation, debts, etc. Why not just get him to design them a new pin on the quiet and pay him a consultancy fee for doing that - surely not associating themselves with his previous shambles would have been better from both a cost and PR perspective? I know this wouldn't help those who lost money with his previous efforts, but, as a new company on the scene, why take on all that baggage as your problem.
http://www.pinballnews.com/games/houdini/index.html
This game does look fascinating. As the writer said if American Pinball can sort this out, then there may be another great pinball manufacturer contending. The more the merrier in my opinion.
This game does look fascinating. As the writer said if American Pinball can sort this out, then there may be another great pinball manufacturer contending. The more the merrier in my opinion.
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Anyone know the the seminar scheduled for 9am today over at expo is going to be streamed by anyone?
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I'm steaming it - asked them about your situation and they said it's down to zidware not American pinball
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What a total ****ing joke.....
They haven't got a clue, expect pinside to burn them down by the end of the day.....
They haven't got a clue, expect pinside to burn them down by the end of the day.....
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We shall see. I hear they've got new hardware for houdini, but that remains to be seen. I'm most interested to see what code base and hardware gets shipped with the 25 magic girl games...
I'll be chatting again with tommy on thisflippipodcast soon, i'm going through my zidware story with him, the highs and lows etc...
Keep us posted when this happens!
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Houdini is an original layout.....
How do we explain the spinner and target position then
Magicgirl proto on the left, houdini on the right
How do we explain the spinner and target position then
Magicgirl proto on the left, houdini on the right
Did you get them to sign one of them thingies MD thingie? That's what our customers have to sign when we do new designs
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I just recorded my second interview with Tommy on thisflippinpodcast tonight. Good long chat about my zidware time on there and other things inc. my indy rewrite latest
Should be out end of this week all being well
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can't imagine that these machines see the light of day, American pinball don't even own the IPR now!
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Not getting into that one. I've been on enough journeys. If you want to hear my story with zidware and what i worked on during the 2 year contract tune into thisflippinpodcast this week
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