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In Progress Whitewater Full Refurb
- Thread starter Jsyjamie
- Start date
looking good no mean feat building your own cab
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Thought I would give it a go before biting the bullet and giving Manny a shout
This is great!!! only just picked it up started at the end and got pulled in and read it backwards LOL, really interesting. amazed that your building a new cabinet wow, could you do a detailed post, what plywood are you using? what's the most difficult bits? how did you mitre the front corners etc. etc...Would love to see how you do it, might even spur me on.
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Cheers Tony, glad you're enjoying it 
Sure thing, the plywood is 18mm 'structural ply'. One sheet just about did the two side panels, the front, back and the top bit at the back.
I've made the bottom out of moisture resistant MDF although my first attempt was about an inch too small at the top and bottom for some reason! Measure twice, cut once and all that
Luckily there was more than enough left out of a sheet to make another one.
The corners are mitred at 45 degrees which isn't the same as the mitre-lock joints the original cabinets come out of the factory with. I am hoping pinning, gluing and running a bracing piece with the big leg bolt plates on the inside will be enough structurally but time will tell.
As I said this is more an experiment/challenge to see if I can do it. Worst case I'll have to shell out £500 for a new cabinet from Manny but nothing ventured, noting gained and all that!
The hardest parts were countersinking the button holes, routering the glass channel track in the sides and mitering the corners, the rest was pretty easy really.
I'm no expert but if you need any more info let me know!
Sure thing, the plywood is 18mm 'structural ply'. One sheet just about did the two side panels, the front, back and the top bit at the back.
I've made the bottom out of moisture resistant MDF although my first attempt was about an inch too small at the top and bottom for some reason! Measure twice, cut once and all that
Luckily there was more than enough left out of a sheet to make another one.The corners are mitred at 45 degrees which isn't the same as the mitre-lock joints the original cabinets come out of the factory with. I am hoping pinning, gluing and running a bracing piece with the big leg bolt plates on the inside will be enough structurally but time will tell.
As I said this is more an experiment/challenge to see if I can do it. Worst case I'll have to shell out £500 for a new cabinet from Manny but nothing ventured, noting gained and all that!
The hardest parts were countersinking the button holes, routering the glass channel track in the sides and mitering the corners, the rest was pretty easy really.
I'm no expert but if you need any more info let me know!
So what will this cost you compared to Manny if successful ? @JsyjayCheers Tony, glad you're enjoying it
Sure thing, the plywood is 18mm 'structural ply'. One sheet just about did the two side panels, the front, back and the top bit at the back.
I've made the bottom out of moisture resistant MDF although my first attempt was about an inch too small at the top and bottom for some reason! Measure twice, cut once and all that
The corners are mitred at 45 degrees which isn't the same as the mitre-lock joints the original cabinets come out of the factory with. I am hoping pinning, gluing and running a bracing piece with the big leg bolt plates on the inside will be enough structurally but time will tell.
As I said this is more an experiment/challenge to see if I can do it. Worst case I'll have to shell out £500 for a new cabinet from Manny but nothing ventured, noting gained and all that!
The hardest parts were countersinking the button holes, routering the glass channel track in the sides and mitering the corners, the rest was pretty easy really.
I'm no expert but if you need any more info let me know!
Cheers Kev
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Good question Kev and still a big IF!
Materials probably will have cost circa £60-70.
My labour is free but reckon it will take me another 3-4 hours to put together plus the 5-6 hours already so say 10 hours worst case.
As this was my first time doing it obviously its taken a lot longer compared to making another one in the future.
I reckon a decent chippy could do it in a day (8 hours).
Materials probably will have cost circa £60-70.
My labour is free but reckon it will take me another 3-4 hours to put together plus the 5-6 hours already so say 10 hours worst case.
As this was my first time doing it obviously its taken a lot longer compared to making another one in the future.
I reckon a decent chippy could do it in a day (8 hours).
I'm in the process with someone else of getting cabinets made for a fair price.
Watch this space.
Watch this space.
Let us know how this goes Daz.... Rather interested for at least one...
cabinet-building also discussed in this link, about a third of the way down
https://howtobuildapinballmachine.wordpress.com/
https://howtobuildapinballmachine.wordpress.com/
That's a great idea, I'm sure there would be a few takers on here for that, how many different sizes are there? Obviously there's the wide body and standard Williams but are there differences in other makes? I.e Sega DE stern?
That's half the idea.
A fully assembled cab or for the more hands on pinball restores a kit from. All CNC cut in a flat pack kit form.
how long Daz before ready ???
Only just looking into it so not right away.
Will start a new thread on the subject and keep people updated once thing get moving.
Sorry for hijacking the thread.
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So progress has been slow the last couple of weeks due to my stag do in Vegas and subsequent recovery time!
Managed to get a couple of hours in the PHOF before my mates dragged me out, most of the games were in reasonable condition and set to 5 balls so getting replays was pretty easy.
Got a fair bit of time on the pins in the NY NY Arcade next to the roller coaster as we were staying in the Monte Carlo nearby, all were Stern Pros.
Fav of the ones I'd never played before was Walking Dead, wasn't really interested in it before but loved it, the right ramp shot is so smooth! Also GOT Pro was good fun but a bit too easy, managed to get 750M on my first go!
All the pins in NY NY were in top condition and the tech guy was there cleaning and tweaking them a few times I was there.
Anyway, seeing all of those beautiful pins has upped my motivation to get this one done!
The cabinet is still a work in progress but all the sides and bottom have been glued and pinned together using my new air pin gun which makes life so much easier.
Lots of filling and sanding to come!
Managed to get a couple of hours in the PHOF before my mates dragged me out, most of the games were in reasonable condition and set to 5 balls so getting replays was pretty easy.
Got a fair bit of time on the pins in the NY NY Arcade next to the roller coaster as we were staying in the Monte Carlo nearby, all were Stern Pros.
Fav of the ones I'd never played before was Walking Dead, wasn't really interested in it before but loved it, the right ramp shot is so smooth! Also GOT Pro was good fun but a bit too easy, managed to get 750M on my first go!
All the pins in NY NY were in top condition and the tech guy was there cleaning and tweaking them a few times I was there.
Anyway, seeing all of those beautiful pins has upped my motivation to get this one done!
The cabinet is still a work in progress but all the sides and bottom have been glued and pinned together using my new air pin gun which makes life so much easier.
Lots of filling and sanding to come!
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So back to the playfield and removing and cleaning all of the lampboards.
Fair to say the subway was minging!
Whirlpool lampboard before & after a bath
Again, minging!
Fair to say the subway was minging!
Whirlpool lampboard before & after a bath
Again, minging!
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Noticed something a bit worrying when I removed the opto switch board.
Luckily the man in Bulgaria @arakissun sent me a used one at a reasonable price so crisis averted!
Luckily the man in Bulgaria @arakissun sent me a used one at a reasonable price so crisis averted!
Sheesh. Good old arakissun
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Next removing and cleaning/rebuilding all of the playfield mechanisms.
I had read on a few logs that the pop bumpers are a pig of a job but I didn't realise how much!
All pretty standard stuff, few pictures below.
I had read on a few logs that the pop bumpers are a pig of a job but I didn't realise how much!
All pretty standard stuff, few pictures below.
looking good c
looking good cab is fab man!!!
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So with everything removed I could finally get on to cleaning and prepping the payfield for clearcoat.
Quick before and after a quick clean up.
That's where I'm up to!
Quick before and after a quick clean up.
That's where I'm up to!
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Cheers Kev, still a bit to go yet!
Printing your own new coil wrappers ?
Cheers Kev
Cheers Kev
Which clearcoat are you using and is it just from a rattle can?