Yes, got PFX3 working in my Cab, also got them launching via PinballX too.
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Wanted Virtual Pinball Machine
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Yes, got PFX3 working in my Cab, also got them launching via PinballX too.
Ok ok ok
I’ll have one
Agree whole heartedly on WIN10 it is a game changer and super stable on a decent PC not some old POS that 2nd hand VPins usually come with!@Colywobbles - I find Windows 10 the most stable OS I have used since VP8 days of using XP back in the day.
I would agree on your point about PC specs. They virtually double if you run 4K - personally with the price of the screens I have kept to 1080p on most of my previous builds.
Having had FX3 in my last cab - it doesnt do anything for me. I would rather have VPX, but you are down to looking for the version of each game you prefer. For example I actually still play some old VP9 games over the newer VPX versions. But as everything is essentially free you can experiment.
We both have opinions that differ, but that would be the same on real pinballs.
I have sold quite a few VPins to people on this group and elsewhere and they have a good place in collections. In one machine you can have 100s of tables - and you can at least try out games before you buy the real thing, plus it is the only way most of us will play Cactus Canyon continued and Big Bang Bar!
Knowing a few people in the hobby - Spike and Spike 2 is close to being emulated but I am sure that will be the point that Gary Stern puts his foot down as Pinball Arcade run the Stern Pinball Arcade digital games, which have to be the most awful games on the planet. I only play Pinball Arcade on my phone.
These tables are a lot of fun - but you do have to keep up with updates and tinker with them a bit. Just like a real pin
To me 4k was and is the biggest game changer and gets rid of all the horrendous zaggies 1080p brings to the table “pun intended” however it comes at a greater cost.
My Vpin without the PC stands me about £30 in wood, £400 in screens inc 40in 4k micro bezel sammy with 5yr warranty!
So all in about £530 inc the decals ( I had couple spare lockbars, siderails and speaker panels) but even those can be got from here quite cheap 2nd hand.
My PC however is used for gaming and VR so sits under my pin to get dual use which I would always recommend as you get far more use out of it and can sort of justify spending a little more in hardware.
As for VPX, TPA & PFX3 each to there own I prefer PFX by far but that’s said you right VPX has its place with the likes of BBB and CC continued but hopefully these will come to TPA fingers crossed
Not so Sunny Sunderland SR5
Guys this is all really great info thanks for your time..
I'm comfortable with PC builds and tinkering.. The main thing I don't have is
-The construction skills/tools
-The time to develop construction skills
-The time to endlessly setup and tweak each pinball machine.
Love the idea of 4k 60fps..agree it would make a huge difference up that close. Haptic feedback also important for the realism. Triple screen a must too.
I'll checkout some VR stuff too for fun.
Might crack out the old amiga cd32 for some pinball fantasies too
I'm comfortable with PC builds and tinkering.. The main thing I don't have is
-The construction skills/tools
-The time to develop construction skills
-The time to endlessly setup and tweak each pinball machine.
Love the idea of 4k 60fps..agree it would make a huge difference up that close. Haptic feedback also important for the realism. Triple screen a must too.
I'll checkout some VR stuff too for fun.
Might crack out the old amiga cd32 for some pinball fantasies too
Again. An awful lot of personal opinions.
I just don’t like fx3. It is a shame you can’t colourise the dmd and put in pup packs etc. Also you can’t access the roms. I thought it was so unrealistic. But hey. It’s just a choice you can make within the launcher. Vpx is free and improves all the time.
Pinball arcade has always been awful. I have all the tables and played them a couple of times and deleted them.
Spike 2 is apparently not far off being emulated but it’s behind closed doors at the moment.
Don’t get me started on future pinball. If you want a laugh put that in your cab!
I just don’t like fx3. It is a shame you can’t colourise the dmd and put in pup packs etc. Also you can’t access the roms. I thought it was so unrealistic. But hey. It’s just a choice you can make within the launcher. Vpx is free and improves all the time.
Pinball arcade has always been awful. I have all the tables and played them a couple of times and deleted them.
Spike 2 is apparently not far off being emulated but it’s behind closed doors at the moment.
Don’t get me started on future pinball. If you want a laugh put that in your cab!
Yeh, forgot about PUP Packs and also homebrew games like Stranger Things.
I was going for second hand bits to get it going really - quick look on eBay gets you a GTX770 and a i5 from that generation for £100 all in.
Mine runs pretty much exactly that spec and runs VPX perfectly at 1080p with everything turned up with the exception of forced 4X AA
I've got a 3 screen setup, but it's a 1/2 size cabinet with a 27" playfield, maybe the AA would be more obvious on a 40" and that's why I'm getting away with a 770 and others are saying a 1060 is the minimum these days
I don't have DOF or a plunger though and mine is decidedly home made...
Interesting to hear about Spike/Spike2 - is that real emulation you're hearing about, not the hack to run spike games using the DLLs from TPA like GB?
Just put my Virtual Pinball up for sale here if anyone interested. https://www.pinballinfo.com/community/threads/virtual-pinball-for-sale-£700.42770/
Still looking for one if someone has a good one (high spec) for a fair price. Realised definitely no time to learn the skills and build one myself.
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@Colywobbles do you build these? Would be looking for one around xmas time hopefully to finish off my games room
cloudburst
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I've a vpin which was originally built by @Pick Holder. Here are my views for what they are worth.
- I hate MS Windows and if not for the requirement here, I wouldn't have it about me. However Win10 has been stable and caused no problems. Leave it off the network most of the time. Only use it for your vpin software. Take regular backups.
- Mine is in a standard Bally Williams cab with a real DMD; I like the familiar feel. And it's bomb-proof.
- I have force feedback solenoids but leave them physically switched off 99.999% of the time.
- Real plunger with optical interface works great.
- As does accelerometer-based nudge and tilt.
- Over a period of time I've found myself configuring PinballX so that only the VPX tables show up. That'll tell you something about my taste.
- Recently I've been disabling the tables I don't really use and focussing on tweaking the remainder (~50 well known tables - mostly BW and a few Gottlieb and Stern) to be really sweet looking and playing.
- Updating tables when a new version is available doesn't take much effort.
- Neither does updating the software components - as long as you're disciplined, take a backup beforehand and only update the stuff which absolutely needs to be updated.
- My machine has a well-spec'd PC and high end graphics card; anything else wouldn't be worth the hassle as I can imagine having loads of problems and needing to tweak table settings if you try to skimp here
- I might upgrade to a 4k setup at some point.
Do it. It's a great way to learn teh rules of loads of tables without taking loads of space. Until you fall in love with another one of those virtual tables and need to make it real...
CB
- I hate MS Windows and if not for the requirement here, I wouldn't have it about me. However Win10 has been stable and caused no problems. Leave it off the network most of the time. Only use it for your vpin software. Take regular backups.
- Mine is in a standard Bally Williams cab with a real DMD; I like the familiar feel. And it's bomb-proof.
- I have force feedback solenoids but leave them physically switched off 99.999% of the time.
- Real plunger with optical interface works great.
- As does accelerometer-based nudge and tilt.
- Over a period of time I've found myself configuring PinballX so that only the VPX tables show up. That'll tell you something about my taste.
- Recently I've been disabling the tables I don't really use and focussing on tweaking the remainder (~50 well known tables - mostly BW and a few Gottlieb and Stern) to be really sweet looking and playing.
- Updating tables when a new version is available doesn't take much effort.
- Neither does updating the software components - as long as you're disciplined, take a backup beforehand and only update the stuff which absolutely needs to be updated.
- My machine has a well-spec'd PC and high end graphics card; anything else wouldn't be worth the hassle as I can imagine having loads of problems and needing to tweak table settings if you try to skimp here
- I might upgrade to a 4k setup at some point.
Do it. It's a great way to learn teh rules of loads of tables without taking loads of space. Until you fall in love with another one of those virtual tables and need to make it real...
CB
Interested to hear why you switch them off? I've only got flipper solenoids but would have thought additional ones would make it more immersive, like for the slings and pop bumpers?
I don’t but I may be moving mine on shortly due to incoming pins and no room so something has to give.@Colywobbles do you build these? Would be looking for one around xmas time hopefully to finish off my games room
cloudburst
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I’ve got them all over the shop and whilst they impress folk with their realism, I find them a bit noisy and ott. Vibration may also take its toll on various other electronic components over time. The sound effects within vpx are perfectly adequate in my book, and can be volume controlled.
CB
