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Trade kitchen prices
- Thread starter DRD
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We have a howdens account discount varies can be up to 60% on certain items like kitchen. Carcasses. Less on door fronts etc. But they are always keen to sell and do a deal. No experience with magnet.
In the process of buying a kitchen from this place near us.... http://www.diy-kitchens.com/
Got good reviews... Prices are quite good too, plus they make all their own units but buy doors in.
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Got good reviews... Prices are quite good too, plus they make all their own units but buy doors in.
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Are you fixed up now Dave ?
Howdens all the way except white goods which I'd shop about for. ..
Howdens is a huge manufacturer with 600 branches in even modest sized towns. Magnet trade has more like 200 branches. Modular kitchens are just commodities (like double glazing), but there is so much aggro in pricing them, and all the wasted time faffing about. The manufacturers obviously try to make this as confusing as possible
I fear that I will have to end up going to b&q , and ikea to get comparator prices to check that i am not being ripped off. I am looking to refurb 2 kitchens plus a utility room this year, so all errors in costings will just get multiplied
Howdens has basically applied a 70% discount across the whole kitchen, whereas Magnet has applied 75% on carcasses with 65% on the door fronts.
The obvious nonsense here is that the difference in price between paying 25% of base and 20% of base is huge
Taking, by means of example, the housing (no door) for a 1.75m integrated fridge (all before vat) ...
Magnet base price £1,039 , 75% discount applied so price to me £260. So £312 inc vat
Howden base price £753 , 70% discount applied so price to me £226. So £272 inc vat
Screwfix sells these things at £240 inc vat
Ikea sells a cabinet including the door for £88 !!!!!!!!!!!!!! Inc vat
Magnet, howden, screwfix are rigid, doweled and glued, so ready for installation - whereas the ikea is flat pack
I fear that I will have to end up going to b&q , and ikea to get comparator prices to check that i am not being ripped off. I am looking to refurb 2 kitchens plus a utility room this year, so all errors in costings will just get multiplied
Howdens has basically applied a 70% discount across the whole kitchen, whereas Magnet has applied 75% on carcasses with 65% on the door fronts.
The obvious nonsense here is that the difference in price between paying 25% of base and 20% of base is huge
Taking, by means of example, the housing (no door) for a 1.75m integrated fridge (all before vat) ...
Magnet base price £1,039 , 75% discount applied so price to me £260. So £312 inc vat
Howden base price £753 , 70% discount applied so price to me £226. So £272 inc vat
Screwfix sells these things at £240 inc vat
Ikea sells a cabinet including the door for £88 !!!!!!!!!!!!!! Inc vat
Magnet, howden, screwfix are rigid, doweled and glued, so ready for installation - whereas the ikea is flat pack
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Howdens measure up and do cad design so you get exactly what you need and if a bit is missing or faulty they usually have in stock at local branch, worst case next day, magnet might offer the same not sure, ikea could be a pita should there be a problem and time vs money putting it all together. Also some sweet talking can get you further discounts at Howdens, or maybe I was just lucky, think it was time of year, end of season discounts before new lines came in, something like that, ask them about it...
The Ikea cabinets also used to be non-standard sizes. I've never bought one myself but know someone who was running a few student houses as rentals and it caused them a few issues getting appliances to fit etc. That was 5+ years ago, so they might be standard now, just something to check if you go that route.
@ronsplooter thanks for this
Could you put me in touch with your mate pls. If he is vaguely midlands based I would be delighted to buy from him if he quotes a fair price. i have not been to Wickes, so he would not be treading on anyone's toes
Thanks
Could you put me in touch with your mate pls. If he is vaguely midlands based I would be delighted to buy from him if he quotes a fair price. i have not been to Wickes, so he would not be treading on anyone's toes
Thanks
@DRD he's based out of the Ashby De La Zouch Wickes so not that close to you but I've text him to find out if you can book an appointment or just go to the store:
http://www.wickes.co.uk/store/8360
I'll let you know when he responds
http://www.wickes.co.uk/store/8360
I'll let you know when he responds
@Bandit Boy
Thank you for your great suggstion. Your place is a major step in the right direction. I went today. It has a fabulous range, of cabinets and doors, much larger than magnet and howdens. The showroom is about 10x the size of a magnet one. A sample carcass is on display sat alongside those from competitors so you can see that the quality is at least as good as magnet trade and howdens
Taking my tall integrated fridge carcass as a comparator it is £100 inc vat there versus
Magnet 312
Howden 272
Screwfix 240
The ikea thing is much lower quality. A builder I know also says that ikea is also very hard (ie unforgiving in real world conditions)to fit
The guys in there are not very helpful, there is no design service. But the price says it all. There is no expensive branch network employing two designers in each branch, so the overheads of this lot will be massively lower. Also, it does not carry stock - you must wait three weeks for it to be manufactured.
But to save a load of haggling with dishonest folk, I can wait
There is also a perfectly good chippy just round the corner from where you enter the industrial estate.
Thank you for your great suggstion. Your place is a major step in the right direction. I went today. It has a fabulous range, of cabinets and doors, much larger than magnet and howdens. The showroom is about 10x the size of a magnet one. A sample carcass is on display sat alongside those from competitors so you can see that the quality is at least as good as magnet trade and howdens
Taking my tall integrated fridge carcass as a comparator it is £100 inc vat there versus
Magnet 312
Howden 272
Screwfix 240
The ikea thing is much lower quality. A builder I know also says that ikea is also very hard (ie unforgiving in real world conditions)to fit
The guys in there are not very helpful, there is no design service. But the price says it all. There is no expensive branch network employing two designers in each branch, so the overheads of this lot will be massively lower. Also, it does not carry stock - you must wait three weeks for it to be manufactured.
But to save a load of haggling with dishonest folk, I can wait
There is also a perfectly good chippy just round the corner from where you enter the industrial estate.
So are you using them? I'm putting my order in next week, around 4k on units, bought appliances from Currys taking advantage of the Easter sale, got a Neff slide & hide oven for £341.00 after discount codes.
As far as I know there's 10% off at DIY kitchens until the 8th of April.
I also think the design service is poor but then again as you state you ain't paying for salesmen, and it is what it's called..DIY!! lol
After scratching my head I've now got my head around their site and sizes and built up my design which hopefully will fit like a glove.
Hi. I am taking the missus there tomorrow to look at the displays. I will then price it all up based on the doors she wants. I have fitted a couple of kitchens in recent years, so I can see that the cabinets, the mechanisms, drawers, hinges etc do seem good at your place
I will then share the resultant price with magnet, howdens, possibly wickes. See where I get to in a brief round of haggling. It is all down to the money for me unfortunately. I like the repeat business, value for money, trust, honesty business model. But these guys just lie to you, try to rip you off, so customer loyalty left the building in this industry years ago
My only reservation with the yorkshire lot is the waiting for elements if you forget to order/ change your mind/ something arrives damaged. At howdens, magnet - they are geared up for this so you can deal with snags very quickly, usually same day.
I will then share the resultant price with magnet, howdens, possibly wickes. See where I get to in a brief round of haggling. It is all down to the money for me unfortunately. I like the repeat business, value for money, trust, honesty business model. But these guys just lie to you, try to rip you off, so customer loyalty left the building in this industry years ago
My only reservation with the yorkshire lot is the waiting for elements if you forget to order/ change your mind/ something arrives damaged. At howdens, magnet - they are geared up for this so you can deal with snags very quickly, usually same day.
Oh, @Bandit Boy - my one tip for you would be to think very carefully about the "decor end panels". These are what you attach to visible cabinet sides if you want them to look like your doors. Some cabinets match the doors, so you do not need these panels.
Some kitchens need loads of these and the panels add a lot of time and faff to fitting. They usually need trimming, you have to use a very high quality saw to cut them neatly and cleanly. And you must make sure that you include them in your floor cabinets if you use them on the wall cupboards above so everything lines up correctly.
Some kitchens need loads of these and the panels add a lot of time and faff to fitting. They usually need trimming, you have to use a very high quality saw to cut them neatly and cleanly. And you must make sure that you include them in your floor cabinets if you use them on the wall cupboards above so everything lines up correctly.
Hi DRD,
Thanks' for the heads up regards the end panels and keeping bottom and top equal but I'd already sussed it. Wife likes the handleless Luca gloss white, but since adding all the end panels to my plan it's added around £300+ on the price.
Might go for matt....
Thanks' for the heads up regards the end panels and keeping bottom and top equal but I'd already sussed it.
Wife likes the handleless Luca gloss white, but since adding all the end panels to my plan it's added around £300+ on the price. Might go for matt....
Correct Dan.
I'm just to far away, plus we use JJO stuff similar price to Howdens but the quality is 50 times better.
Couldn't save Dave anything so stayed quiet.
@carl lawrence is also a kitchen fitter and much closer.
Any thoughts on DIY kitchens Replicas, have you heard any good or Bad?
Not had any dealings with DIY nor heard if they are good or bad.
