South West Pinball League Meet #4 for 2022

[Moonraker]

I’d like to start by saying a massive thank you to Marcus for hosting the previous league meet in his Minehead Arkade. He closed the pinball section to provide us with exclusive playing rights on the games. There was a super selection of machines to play and it was great to see everyone enjoying them. congratulations are due to Luke on his maiden league win, it’ll be the first of many I am sure.

On to this Sunday’s (8th May) league meet that is very kindly being hosted by Ian Wallace in his superb games room.

This is a private venue, please PM for the address.

Time: 12noon to 5pm, league play starts 2pm.

The pinball league will cost: £5 for Adults, free for Children.

The plan is for the following machines to be in the league:

• GOTG Pro - https://www.ipdb.org/machine.cgi?id=6474
• Hot Wheels - https://www.ipdb.org/machine.cgi?id=6661
• Rick & Morty - https://www.ipdb.org/machine.cgi?id=6640
• JP2 Premium - https://www.ipdb.org/machine.cgi?id=6574
• Stranger Things Pro - https://www.ipdb.org/machine.cgi?id=6642
• Mata Hari - https://www.ipdb.org/machine.cgi?id=4501
  
  With whatever Ian can have available from:
• Deadpool LE - https://www.ipdb.org/machine.cgi?id=6560
• Tron LE - https://www.ipdb.org/machine.cgi?id=5707
• MBr LE - https://www.ipdb.org/machine.cgi?id=6572
• Star Wars LE - https://www.ipdb.org/machine.cgi?id=6430
• Iron Maiden LE - https://www.ipdb.org/machine.cgi?id=6557
• Metallica LE - https://www.ipdb.org/machine.cgi?id=6031

All games are subject to serviceability.

As always it helps if people warn me (by email) in advance that they are attending to help with the paperwork side of things.

Remaining league dates for the diary:

5th Meet - 26th June, Greg Mott, Swanage (note correction!)
6th Meet - 24th July, Luke Grayson, Trowbridge.

I look forward to seeing everyone on Sunday.

 

[Moonraker]

@Paul - what happened to the events posts? didn't ask for date, address, etc.

 

[ianw]

Hopefully if I keep off the beer, I can sort a few issues on remaining games tonight

 

[MarkS]

Looking forward to this, thanks for hosting @ianw - I've never played a single one of those machines before so it should be interesting

 

[ianw]

Star Wars LE & Iron Maiden LE have passed inspection

 

[ianw]

Deadpool still out

Tron coming back together



Mb still has switch issue

Final clean for Mata Hari


If in doubt of coming, BBQ sauages and onions rolls for lunch

 

[GezTheHealer]

Thank you @ianw for great hosting, what a beautiful collection of games and a fun afternoon of pinball!

 

[Moonraker]

A massive thanks to Ian for letting us loose in his amazing games room. Most games played like they were new out of the box!

Congrats to Luke on a domineering win!

A few photos:

 

[robotgreg]

Mnay thanks to Ian and Dan for hosting - awesome selection and condition of games and great hot dogs too

Very well played and congrats to Luke with certainly a record as far as I can remember of 4 bonus points for top scores. Luke's imporved immensly over the last few years and seems to be the one to catch this season.

 

[GezTheHealer]

Woop woop, are these extra points for getting more than double the next closest score on - Metallica, Iron Maiden, Star Wars & Guardians? Does that mean I should get 24points for the meet rather than just the 20 it’s updated with @Moonraker ? Also I thought I got 750mil on IMDN, not 735mil. Please can you check the sheet when you can Pete as that’d put me at HS in the league on it as well as Star Wars .

 

[robotgreg]

Woop woop, are these extra points for getting more than double the next closest score on - Metallica, Iron Maiden, Star Wars & Guardians? Does that mean I should get 24points for the meet rather than just the 20 it’s updated with @Moonraker ? Also I thought I got 750mil on IMDN, not 735mil. Please can you check the sheet when you can Pete as that’d put me at HS in the league on it as well as Star Wars .

No the extra points just add to the points on the day ie your 90 or so, not the overall points in the table.

 

[Jackpot]

Mnay thanks to Ian and Dan for hosting - awesome selection and condition of games and great hot dogs too

Very well played and congrats to Luke with certainly a record as far as I can remember of 4 bonus points for top scores. Luke's imporved immensly over the last few years and seems to be the one to catch this season.

Knew this guy was one to watch from Robot Bash in Dec... well played Luke! Dominating performance!

 

[GezTheHealer]

Ah okay thanks that makes sense. Neck and neck with Pete is no small feat - looking forward to the next two meets!

 

[Wizcat]

Mnay thanks to Ian and Dan for hosting - awesome selection and condition of games and great hot dogs too

Very well played and congrats to Luke with certainly a record as far as I can remember of 4 bonus points for top scores. Luke's imporved immensly over the last few years and seems to be the one to catch this season.

Can confirm that this is the first time any single player has achieved 4 bonus points in a single league meet! This is the top of what that exclusive tree looks like

(League Meet, Player, Bonus points awarded)

2022 South West League Meet 4, Luke Grayson, 4

2020 Northern League Meet 3, Andy Foster, 3
2019 South West League Meet 3, Craig Pullen, 3
2017 South West League Meet 3, Rich Mallett, 3
2017 South West League Meet 1, Rich Mallett, 3
2016 South West League Meet 5, Greg Mott, 3
2014 Northern League Meet 1, Andy Foster, 3
2007 Midlands League Meet 6, Nick Marshall, 3

(And there are 32 instances of players getting 2 bonus points)

 

[Wizcat]

And whilst I'm doing queries - these are the players that have achieved the most bonus points over the lifetime of the league (top 20 listed) :

Andy Foster 38
Martin Ayub 30
Nick Marshall 27
Greg Mott 23
Wayne Johns 18
Keith Boreland 15
Craig Pullen 13
Garry Speight 12
Phil Dixon 12
Peter Blakemore 10
Will Jarvis 10
Rich Mallett 8
John Higgins 7
Ian Craig 6
Eric Ridley 6
David Dutton 6
Darren Ball 5
Eddie Mole 5
Luke Grayson 5
Martyn Raison 5

 

[Moonraker]

If you're recording number of bonus points per meet then you should reference the number of games played. 3 bonus points in a 5 or 6 game meet is a lot better performance than 4 from a 12 game meet and can also reflect the number of chances for collecting bonus points (more games played means more chance). Andy's league normally has up to 12 games per meet, Martin's league only has 5 games per meet, so Andy has had many more opportunities than Martin.

 

[Wizcat]

This is the same 20 listed above, but now sorted by percentage of times they achieved bonus points from the # of games played.

Name	Percent​	Bonus Points​	Total Games Played​
Rich Mallett	11.76471​	8​	68​
Martin Ayub	9.615385​	30​	312​
Keith Boreland	8.241758​	15​	182​
Luke Grayson	7.575758​	5​	66​
Andy Foster	6.896552​	38​	551​
Craig Pullen	6.632653​	13​	196​
Nick Marshall	6.521739​	27​	414​
Greg Mott	3.79538​	23​	606​
Wayne Johns	3.636364​	18​	495​
Ian Craig	3.296703​	6​	182​
Eric Ridley	3.015075​	6​	199​
John Higgins	2.777778​	7​	252​
Peter Blakemore	2.242152​	10​	446​
Eddie Mole	2.074689​	5​	241​
Phil Dixon	1.860465​	12​	645​
Will Jarvis	1.845018​	10​	542​
Garry Speight	1.671309​	12​	718​
Martyn Raison	1.655629​	5​	302​
Darren Ball	0.85034​	5​	588​
David Dutton	0.795756​	6​	754​

I did try a new listing of highest percentages, but it might be a bit misleading where (eg) John Rolfe got 1 bonus point from 11 games played putting him 4th with 9.09%

Very happy to chat ideas on pulling stats out of the league data though. I'm planning to open source the whole league site soon and could include the database in that too if anyone wanted to run their own queries (in sql)

 

[MarkS]

Thanks Ian and Dan for hosting and letting us play all those lovely machines - congrats to Luke for the win and the bonus points record!

 

[JWG9999]

Thanks Ian and Dan for hosting and letting us play all those lovely machines - congrats to Luke for the win and the bonus points record!

Fully agree

 

[ianw]

Woop woop, are these extra points for getting more than double the next closest score on - Metallica, Iron Maiden, Star Wars & Guardians? Does that mean I should get 24points for the meet rather than just the 20 it’s updated with @Moonraker ? Also I thought I got 750mil on IMDN, not 735mil. Please can you check the sheet when you can Pete as that’d put me at HS in the league on it as well as Star Wars .

 

[GezTheHealer]

I thought wrong(!) thanks for checking.

 

[Wayne J]

Andy's league normally has up to 12 games per meet, Martin's league only has 5 games per meet, so Andy has had many more opportunities than Martin.

It's always puzzled me why a set number of games are played, rather than all available, in certain regions. It gives a better judgement of who was the best player on the day.
It (counter intuitively) generally doesn't take any more time for all players to play 11 comp games over 5 comp games, due to queuing. You actually spend more time waiting, so you don't lose your place in the queue, rather than playing.

Telboys last meet had 13 games, and we were all done well before 6. The holdup actually being a few good games on GZ, and it playing quite long.

 

[robotgreg]

I totally agree that it's always seemed odd to play only 5 in the South East region when you'd spend as much if not more time queuing to play a machine than you will actually playing so you could have played other games in the meantime.

And with 5, if you have one bad game, you're screwed but you can recover from if more played eg 8.

Once you get close to 10 or more, then I do think it then does add considerably to the time of the meet especially if some are long players so you need a balance between the two. We find 8 or so is a good number.