Never really understood the concept of the “PC Brigade” and the idea they stop people saying or doing anything. I work in a very pro female, LGBTQ, BAME, ”woke” culture (i think in the whole building there are less than 5 straight white males out of almost 2000 people). In 17 years no one has complained about anything I’ve said and I know I come out with a lot of crap just to wind people up but according to the Daiy Mail I should be living in constant fear of instant dismissal in Tower Hamlets for daring to ask for a “Black coffee”.
I’m sure there are examples of times people have been pulled up on things but most of this crap is media driven. 99% of people have better things to do than get outraged over pointless things.
The only 100% British quality, through and through, is moaning.
Exactly that. I'm left to wonder exactly what people think is being denied to them.
The only 100% British quality, through and through, is moaning.
Exactly that. I'm left to wonder exactly what people think is being denied to them.
Discuss what?Discussion. Discussion is what is being denied. The fact that people fear losing their jobs for dissenting from left wing views. You might not have that fear in your industry but if you work in media and entertainment it’s a different story. Brexit has certainly shown that it’s not possible to debate anymore.
Discuss what?
Nope, total cop out.Politics.
Nope, total cop out.
I have razing political debates all the damn time, including with work colleagues. Nothing happens.
Give a specific subject that you can't discuss, because that's where this whole discussion actually starts revealing some fact.
worked in the music industry for 12 years before going into teaching, so I’m assuming that was part of the entertainment industry. Unless it’s changed radically it was full of weird independent people with all different types of opinions.
Morrissey still seems to be doing well despite his opinions
Then I don't know what to say to you, other than it's just flat-out wrong from what I've seen.I've already given you a specific example above. Most people in this country voted for Brexit and also voted overwhelmingly for a Conservative government. You certainly wouldn't be admitting to either in the workplace. Instead we have the silent majority. There is no political discussion anymore unless it's with people who agree with you.
I could think of many, many reasons.Why on earth wouldn't you admit to either voting for Brexit or the Conservatives in the workplace?
Funny thing is the guilt ends up the other way .The ability to be openly racist without feelings of guilt?
On one level, you're not wrong.The net, twitter storms, cancellation culture ... have changed everything
Nice that we can help each other out with pinball machines in a way we couldn't 20 years ago.
But there is a flip side to that coin. Unruly mobs can form very quickly and cheaply. The old fashioned libel and slander laws can't cope in the digital age
This is a completely valid point, what I said about before about people very poorly adjusting to the online world does cut both ways.You're talking about some very high profile criminal cases. What we also have on a smaller scale is people using public platforms like Twitter as a way to 'cancel' people without any intention of going through the legal process and a fair trial. Instead we have a trial by Twitter. That is very wrong. The Alec Holowka suicide during the #metoo campaign is a prime example of this.
Leaving politics aside, Morrissey is and always has been crapMorrissey still seems to be doing well despite his opinions
Brexit has certainly shown that it’s not possible to debate anymore.
Rowling isn't the best example for that. She's not even a good example. There are far better examples of disproportionate responses - Rowling chooses to be politically active on certain topics and knows what kind of response she is going to get.Look at the abuse JK Rolling is getting right now, totally outrageous