CFTBL Chase Ramp and pop bumper advice

[VeeMonroe]

I've got a Creech with LEDs on the inserts/GI, and on the whirlpool, but a chase ramp with tiny little incandescents right the way around. I think incandescent bulbs on pinball machines look like someone ****ed on the playfield, and I want a Creech with that cool rotating purple lighting on the chase ramp. So, I think I need a @stumblor Chase Echo board (https://stumblorpinball.com/products/echo) and some special LEDs. Is that correct? And where can I get the special LEDs from (Comet seem to be out of stock)?

Also, what do I need to get if I want clear pop bumpers with an 'underwater' look and spinning lights. Do I need this? (https://stumblorpinball.com/products/lolly-led-ring-16-led-rgb-neopixel-compatible-ws2812)

 

[David_Vi]

For the pops you'll need to rebuild the entire pop bumper assembly using clear parts. Or just replace the caps to clear and add led rings, Daveys lollypops if you want to be high tech..

Comet do little LEDs for the chase lamps.

LED Tinies (#86)

These bulbs use older LED technology, which has since been replaced by SMD (which are more reliable and significantly longer lasting). If you're interested in this bulb, we recommend our SMD Tinies.

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I kept ours warm white as I think the incandescent effect on the chase lamps is best, I believe it was meant to be reminiscent of a film reel running with the projector light, (like the flashers when multiball is ready).
With LEDs in the ramps and whirlpool you'll lose most of the chase effect as LEDs do not fade in and out and it looks awful.
If you add an afterglow GI or ledocd GI it won't effect the chase lamps and breaks them further, leaving them stuck on permenantly.

Because of this a lot of people leave those incandescent to keep the original effect, or add LEDs, a chase echo (or keep original chase board) AND an afterglow GI/ledocdGI.
I don't believe you'll retain the effect without installing all of those but @stumblor can confirm

 

[David_Vi]

This is our (Claire's) creech with it all happening.
Can get a better video in test with the chase lamps doing their thing if it helps.
Personally I think those are a good contender for leaving incandescents unless you want to make them green or purple as those are your only other options other than warm which looks near identical to the original incandescents (but then opens the can of worms of needing them to dim to keep the original effect)

 

[David_Vi]

some special LEDs. Is that correct? And where can I get the special LEDs from (Comet seem to be out of stock)?

Creature from the Black Lagoon Ramp Lighting

All those tiny little bulbs #86 that line the edges of the big looping ramp, and the bowl at the bottom? You'll need 32 of those. Here they are. Choose from Warm White, Cool White, Green, or Purple. Those bulbs have their own product page, so if you want to mix and match, you can go there.

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You can get them this way, and still in stock.
I got @David retro to order those in warm but got a few purple extra ones to experiment with on the whirlpool

 

[David_Vi]

Here's a video of the ramp lights and the game in general in attract.
Hopefully it offers some ideas. I think a ledocd GI or AGGI is a must have on creech. LEDs look awful without them considering the amount of dimming going on in attract and in game.

Also a hot tip, the comet LED indicator bulbs are perfect for the LEDs that are on show above the ramps and snackbar. I personally can't stand seeing a white or clear LED lens in places like this, where they should show the colour even when off, they look ugly as hell.
The indicator bulbs are coloured LEDs with coloured lenses that fit in these locations perfectly, keeping the original aesthetic of Creech.
Good example:

Colored Lens Indicator Lamps

For some, the biggest eyesore of switching to LEDs has beenreplacing indicator lamps above the playfield (think scoops, like thechair in Addams Family). Gone were your yellow or red bulb condoms,replaced with a cold, heartless white dome at all times. People havebegged and pleaded with us...

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[Kenny Taylor]

Shock horror. Creech is the only pin where I’ve left all the bulbs incandescent. I think it suits the era of the drive in cinema. Has colour dmd and pinsound though..

 

[crsedgar]

And where can I get the special LEDs from (Comet seem to be out of stock)?

These were recommended by @stumblor for the chase echo board, pink for the main ramp and blue for the whirlpool.

1 LED - klarer flacher Kopf - pink (#86) [07-212] - €0.35 - bestofpinball.com

bestofpinball.com 1 LED - klarer flacher Kopf - pink (#86) [07-212] - 1 LED - klarer flacher Kopf - pink (#86) 6,3V - Ersatz für Lampe #86 benutzt in TWILIGHT ZONE Clock CREATURE FROM THE BLACK LAGOON Rampenbeleuchtung Gottlieb VICTORY chaser Beleuchtung Flintstones usw

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I have them and have to say they look great.