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Can anyone advise guns and roses
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That looks the sort of fastener that would have an earth braid from the cabinet attached to it.
So, the question is: Have you got an earth braid from the cabinet to the backbox?
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Yes I believe I do tho I’ve not time to check today I think there’s also one on the other side
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Yep cab earthed on right hand side. Ok so I have 5 pins and 2 arcades on a 16 amp circuit , is that to much? do data East’s suck a lot juice on start up ? It trips the power supply every time , but the when put on extension cable from another house it’s totally fine, ? I can run 4 pins no problem. Thing is even with no other machines on it will trip the supply BUT when I start it on its own from neighbours supply via extension cable it’s fine, is it A my supply B the game being sensitive to the current C Jeremy corbins fault ? I really don’t know?
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Not having done much with DE machines, I didn't realise that the Live and Neutral were both fused. Some pins are prone to knocking out circuit breakers; a large 'inrush current' is produced, AIUI, before the transformer builds up its magnetic fields. Williams eventually began using a 'thermistor' (thermal resistor) in series between the live lead and the line filter to restrict this. But I'm afraid that is tinkering with the mains side.
My DE LW3 did this a lot, probably tripped the mains ever other power on. The Thermistor solution @Jay Walker mentioned above worked for me. Here are a couple of links showing how to do this (and one explaining why it works with the extension cord to your neighbours house):
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/data-east-house-fuse-blows-ntc-thermistor
It's not too difficult a job if you don't mind wielding a soldering iron.
Flippers.be - Main breaker of your house trips when turning on a pinball machine
Main breaker of your house trips when switching on a pinball machine
www.flippers.be
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/data-east-house-fuse-blows-ntc-thermistor
It's not too difficult a job if you don't mind wielding a soldering iron.
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interesting stuff!! looks like it would be the best course of action -- i need to digest !!
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ok so i think i can do this, 5om ntc would this be the correct part ?
https://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/ther...QXCBx6GAZmvwZUb-wShoC6WgQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds
has anyone got photos of what the wires should look like, the inside ones is blurred thanks in advance
https://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/ther...QXCBx6GAZmvwZUb-wShoC6WgQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds
has anyone got photos of what the wires should look like, the inside ones is blurred thanks in advance
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ok so looking hard at the pics i desolder the brown and add the themositer in-between the two? correct
I think I may have a spare. If I do you can have it. Give me 20 mins or so and I'll let you know.
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I've found it. PM me your address and I'll pop it in the post tomorrow. Hopefully you'll get it for the weekend.
Back to original question it’s often the earth braid from the speaker attaches to that, on earlier machines there was one on each side., think on later ones they just attached one side. Never had a problem with my 4+ de pins tripping anything…
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Either way round is fine. My preference would be soldering it in a way that is could see the markings/values later on if needed.
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For any others struggling with DE games tripping a house circuit breaker this was a perfect solution. The trouble I had was my games room is on the very end of the line comming from a workshop supply my house is near the games room but is a different supply , the game would run on my house supply but would trip the workshop supply. With this mod the draw on the current from the machine isn’t as much of a wack so slows the power without tripping the box … hope this is helpful to anyone els
