Looking for one of these which I know is a long shot.
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Wanted The evil dead
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Kelsbells
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You may get one at some point there’s a couple already moved in the back ground for £12.5-13k
Hope one comes up for you. I also wanted one, I was offered one! then the guy changed his mind. I got impatient and after seeing huge queues all day to play Harry Potter I ordered one of those instead. I hope to get Evil Dead somewhere down the line another time. Good luck.
Both HP and ED are the games of the moment I’ve been lucky enough to play at my mate next door @Chaggers
TBH I would be hard pressed to choose but would probs end up with your choice due to the great Famalam friendly theme so don’t think you’ve missed out on something as you onto a winner
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Setup both of these this week
HP looks beautiful but , jeez what a lot going on, super deep but family friendly
ED great game straight off the bat like the ur slingshot flipper , great idea for lh shots probably a u & mates game with a drink.
Out of the two HP would probably be played by more people, personally I enjoyed ED more . So pick the one you have more sentimental attachment to you are paying the bill
HP looks beautiful but , jeez what a lot going on, super deep but family friendly
ED great game straight off the bat like the ur slingshot flipper , great idea for lh shots probably a u & mates game with a drink.
Out of the two HP would probably be played by more people, personally I enjoyed ED more . So pick the one you have more sentimental attachment to you are paying the bill
Chaggers
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I also echo this both games are so goodSetup both of these this week
HP looks beautiful but , jeez what a lot going on, super deep but family friendly
ED great game straight off the bat like the ur slingshot flipper , great idea for lh shots probably a u & mates game with a drink.
Out of the two HP would probably be played by more people, personally I enjoyed ED more . So pick the one you have more sentimental attachment to you are paying the bill
HP instantly for non pinball people
But ED is a damn fine game too
HP out of all the jjps flows so good has great shots
And code is maybes not as linear as say ED but once you learn it all
It makes perfect sense and can tackle it in some many different ways
ED has great phased modes with multiple layers underneath it all
Hard to pick one over other like apples n oranges
Just wait till new year 9-10k
But out of interest, how many do you think are in the UK? 10? 50?
Would it be possible to buy and import from, say USA through a distributor here?
Are the USA machines compatible with UK power supply?
Would it be possible to buy and import from, say USA through a distributor here?
Are the USA machines compatible with UK power supply?
Kelsbells
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Around 20 in uk , yes us is compatible with uk on spooky games , you’ll have to buy from an individual in us if you want to import , will be the same with beetlejuice, everyone wants recent spooky games they’re limited and different level since ED and why they will probably be some of the only games that hold value solidly moving forward
Evil dead is a great family theme Col, haven’t been able to get my kids off the game since it showed up.Both HP and ED are the games of the moment I’ve been lucky enough to play at my mate next door @Chaggers
TBH I would be hard pressed to choose but would probs end up with your choice due to the great Famalam friendly theme so don’t think you’ve missed out on something as you onto a winner
Just gotto make sure you have the video and audio set to kid friendly
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Agreed, it’ll never hold NIB price
@Kelsbells with all this in shadows bulsh1t, if they are selling above NIB it’s because of FOMO but once people have beetlejuice welcome to the real world and price drops
Stroking the fire of hype in the hopes people can’t see through the smoke and trying to control the narrative… people who have been a while see through this
Yeah, people have short memories and limited space. They’ve just landed over here and it’s a great looking / playing game so it’s rightfully getting a lot of attention and FOMO is hitting hard, and I’m sure that the first few will change hands for £££ - but with 20 in the country it won’t last. Give it a year or two and people will have their eyes on a new release and wanting to release funds and / or make space.
I don’t think it’s going to crater in value or anything, and I’m guessing it will prob see less depreciation than the popular Sterns - but it’s not going to be selling for above NIB price in a year or two. Nothing does now.
In defence of Kell lots of pins change hands without Pinfo getting a sniff. I can testify to dozens of pins moving around circles in the know.
As for ED holding its price only time will tell but my take is whatever anyone buys NIB they will lose at least 2k just unboxing!
However that said I guess that MMM has proved me wrong and you don’t have to even unbox to lose money now
I expect my WMH to lose at least 2k when it arrives and before I even unbox it! But I didn’t buy it to sell so it will stay here until code is on final then depending how it resonates with me will find it’s place as a keeper or not as the case may be.
All my pins so called keepers or not have a pecking order and nothing is sacred here anymore TBH.
As for ED holding its price only time will tell but my take is whatever anyone buys NIB they will lose at least 2k just unboxing!
However that said I guess that MMM has proved me wrong and you don’t have to even unbox to lose money now
I expect my WMH to lose at least 2k when it arrives and before I even unbox it! But I didn’t buy it to sell so it will stay here until code is on final then depending how it resonates with me will find it’s place as a keeper or not as the case may be.
All my pins so called keepers or not have a pecking order and nothing is sacred here anymore TBH.
Completely agree as a NIB buyer who expects to take a substantial hit on every game. I really think we need to normalise the idea that if you buy NIB you’re going to lose money instead of perpetuating the fallacy that if you pick the right game from the right manufacturer then you’re somehow going to be immune from depreciation or even turn a profit.
Thanks colywobbles.
I’m in no desperate rush for one so will see what happens in the new year. Process are dropping on pins so time will tell with this one I guess
I’m in no desperate rush for one so will see what happens in the new year. Process are dropping on pins so time will tell with this one I guess
It’s the reality of nib pinball
Of course pins move around amongst friends off the forum, that's natural - but I don't think that posting publicly here about games selling 'in the back ground' for unverifiable prices is particularely useful unless your sole objective is to make sure people know that you're part of an in-crowd.
Kelsbells
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Kelsbells
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Why can’t some incredible games with limited numbers not hold value? They do and will in the RoW ! feels like old timers here generally priced out of nib market just want to have a glass half empty attitude to every game to benefit themselves down the line , now that is smoke and mirrors!
Supply and demand, nothing more to it than that. A few wanted ads have gone up for it, so it will be who wants it more (translation - who will pay the most) when they come up for sale.
People who own the game will talk prices up, people who don't (or want one) will talk prices down. They'll naturally find their resale price.
People who own the game will talk prices up, people who don't (or want one) will talk prices down. They'll naturally find their resale price.
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Kelsbells
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Neil will sell an ED for £20k , special offer for the forum apparently!
I don’t think the older buyer is a glass half empty he is just cleverer they maybe a very small minority the got to have it now type who missed the boat on ed and may pay full retail or close but that’s small and limited the others are happy to wait 6 months for it to be considerably cheaper I would love for you to tell me what limited game over the last 5 years goes for anything near retail now
I will give you some examples
Tcm and looney tunes much lower numbers than ed one on here now at a 3-4k below nib price and still here in weeks
Scooby doo more volume on this game but still a 4k loss min on nib
Halloween ultraman again I think you would be lucky to get 7k for Halloween and ultraman as low as 4k
The nib tna I sold just last week nib 4-5k less than nib and my inbox wasn’t bombarded
And it’s the same with all manufacturers I would love to be proved wrong though
Neil may want 20k or even 12k for evil dead but they won’t be anybody at that amount the person who started this thread isn’t wanting to pay over the odds and is happy to wait till one comes along at an acceptable price as are most people
Chaggers
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To echo this chris nobody wants to pay over inflated prices for pins
Either NIB or used but theres something strange happening at the min
If you look at beetlejuice and what people are over paying for deposits in the States
Its crazy
Game not even been in the wild yet too
Everyone jumped on sterns back and looking for an alternative/value
ED is a fantastic game but ive had some teeeting problems with it and no manufacturer
Is bombproof
Its like on one hand everyone wants everyone else to take a hit on NIB
on the other spooky sold their BJ allocation out within minutes
Time will tell where this hobby goes and pricing
But my take is whoever buys NIB will either keep as dont wanna risk
losing too much the more this goes on or will become disgruntled at NIB prices and peel away from modern pins
Either NIB or used but theres something strange happening at the min
If you look at beetlejuice and what people are over paying for deposits in the States
Its crazy
Game not even been in the wild yet too
Everyone jumped on sterns back and looking for an alternative/value
ED is a fantastic game but ive had some teeeting problems with it and no manufacturer
Is bombproof
Its like on one hand everyone wants everyone else to take a hit on NIB
on the other spooky sold their BJ allocation out within minutes
Time will tell where this hobby goes and pricing
But my take is whoever buys NIB will either keep as dont wanna risk
losing too much the more this goes on or will become disgruntled at NIB prices and peel away from modern pins
Kelsbells
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Yes agree with most of that Chris I did specifically say that spooky had gone to a different level since ED , beetlejuice a sellout before launch it will be the same with Goonies so we might be entering into a era where some games from boutiques buck the trend , and stern are making that possibility possible!
You sound like s000my and Neil who look down on anyone who does not buy NIB, I doubt anyone here is “priced out” but feel the value just ain’t there on new games these days. Loads of ways to spend money these days (and get actual value in return) and NIB pinball ain’t one of them. Just pick them up 40% cheaper in a few years, same game same fun, just not a stupid price.
I can buy NIB but wouldn’t play it any more than the 17 pins I have now. Just want to have one to enjoy so like others have said I’m happy to wait for the market to determine the price point.
Still need to add all the ghostbuster mods I have had for months!!!
Still need to add all the ghostbuster mods I have had for months!!!
The States is a very different market to over here. Most notably there are loads more people in the hobby, which means that for more limited games the supply and demand equation can be heavily weighted to the demand side, at least at first. Also, American homes tend to be larger, which supports larger collection sizes, and Americans tend to earn significantly more / have much more disposable income.
Over here pinball is a small niche hobby and most people don’t have space for a large collection. This means a much smaller pool of potential buyers, especially for the £10k+ machines, and owners more frequently needing to sell games to make space for something new. We’ll see how things shake out with Evil Dead but with our short attention spans and a load of new titles from multiple manufacturers each year it isn’t going to be the new and exciting game for long. It does have a very well executed cult theme which should help it retain some value but so does Lebowski and those are going for well below NIB price now.
Agree re buying NIB - I used to do it much more but now that the prices are so high and the resale hit so great it’s harder and harder to justify from a value perspective especially when there are loads of games out there that I haven’t owned yet. I have a Potter incoming and I’m sure I’ll take a big hit on that if/when I come to sell it but didn’t want to wait for that one which means I have to pay the price.
Chris B I don't agree with all you say, for I'm the impulsive type of buyer. I would be prepared to pay over the odds for something I really want and in my mind, wouldn't come up for sale often. I have too many friends who have died of cancer etc and I feel (for things I would really like) I don't have time to wait. 'Get it now, pay a bit more, and enjoy it' kind of mindset. Plus as a collection I've paid far less overall for my pins so happy to take a hit.
I did offer NIB price for ED and instead of the seller letting me know they had changed their mind they just strung me along.
I'd never seen the film Harry Potter. Unlike my favorite Horror Evil Dead, Harry meant nothing to me. However after going to Einderhoven and seeing a constant stream of people playing it, I finally got a game on it myself. Like the Elton John, I was blown away by the light show and toys - I tend to buy my pins and look at them as artworks. So, I came back and impulsively turned my back on ED (for now) and ordered HP.
I did offer NIB price for ED and instead of the seller letting me know they had changed their mind they just strung me along.
I'd never seen the film Harry Potter. Unlike my favorite Horror Evil Dead, Harry meant nothing to me. However after going to Einderhoven and seeing a constant stream of people playing it, I finally got a game on it myself. Like the Elton John, I was blown away by the light show and toys - I tend to buy my pins and look at them as artworks. So, I came back and impulsively turned my back on ED (for now) and ordered HP.
Again I have to disagree again in the states you have people who missed the boat and have the funds to over pay and don’t care much more limited over here a prime example I will use gnr ce when that promotion video dropped it went mental with only limited ce s phil could have sold twice as many and again people s spots where trading for silly money 1 year later you could probably get one for 4k less than nib and today even cheaper still my advice would be if you have a bj and want to make money sell it before it comes or in the first month but if it’s a lemon and it could well be a no one has a clue yet then you will lose money
You are correct in that there are people like yourself who just can’t wait and will pay more but it is a minority on here I have customers who are the same
I don’t think there are many people that like taking in hit on here though
great choice on EJ that is a game that sold well and you rarely see come up for sale