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SWEP1 Newcore Help won’t boot

Carl85

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Hi guys, I have a SWEP1 with newcore and lcd installed. It was already done and when I got the game so I don’t really have any knowledge of if at all to be honest. Basically it was working fine up until a few days ago. Switched machine on and only the backglass light come on. Upon further inspection the pc cpu fan doesn’t spin, nether does the power supplies, although I’m sure that doesn’t until pc has booted. I plugged a usb light In to the usb port and it does supply power. I don’t want to mess around too much without knowing what I’m doing with it. Just checked for the obvious loose connections etc
Cheers
Carl
 
CHRIS B PINBALLS said:
Probably got no power to it check all the main power leads in to the main pub box mainly the kettle type lead
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Thanks mate, yeah checked the kettle lead which is all seated properly etc. it seems to get power from the connector at the back of the cabinet and splits to the amplifier figure of 8 plug, then the kettle plug. Amped powered on fine. The part that confused me is that the usb socket of the motherboard supplies power to a little usb light 🤷🏻‍♂️.
 
Might be a silly question but have you tried the on/off momentary button on the case, I suspect the BIOS would have been set to auto power the PC on when the PSU gets power but if the CMOS battery has gone flat and lost the settings in the BIOS it would need manually turning on. If that works you would need to replace the button cell and reset the BIOS settings.
 
Fantazia2 said:
Might be a silly question but have you tried the on/off momentary button on the case, I suspect the BIOS would have been set to auto power the PC on when the PSU gets power but if the CMOS battery has gone flat and lost the settings in the BIOS it would need manually turning on. If that works you would need to replace the button cell and reset the BIOS settings.
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Hi, sorry yes tried the switch and it does nothing
 
Looking at replacing the power supply to the pc. Here’s pictures of what’s in there but it does look to have been previously opened. Can anyone help with the one I need. There’s 115v stickers all over this one but says 230v on the power supply label. The 115v ones do look to have been added by the person who put it together. Don’t want to order the incorrect one.
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I'll be very surprised if it's the power supply. Try disconnecting the power button switch and short the pins out with a small jewlers screwdriver to see if it'll boot.
 
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And try a new CMOS battery (probably a CR2032) if not replaced already. They can cause all sorts of peculiar symptoms when they go flat.
 
I'd say the PSU is dead. If you want to test it connect pins 16 and 17 on the ATX connector and see if the fan spins.
 
Thanks guys. Will give all those a shot. I took the pc out and took it all apart just to make sure no loose connections etc. changed the 2032. Just awaiting arrival of a ps2 keyboard to do bios settings but when I put it back in and hit the power button on pc case it booted. Tried that half a dozen times and always booted. Tried again this evening when I got home from work and nothing. Will try shorting the power button pins incase the button is at fault. If not only thing I can think it can be is the PSU
 
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Yes, needs a 115V AT/ATX power supply. Probably it so easy to find now.
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Would this one be suitable do you think? Can’t seem to find too many 115v from eBay or Amazon 38CB5B5E-E923-4764-B8AA-FB4BA6B917B4.jpeg
 

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Sounds more like PC related, connectors or connections probably. Repeat the exercise of taking the PC out and see if it boots. I have a spare PSU that I can send you but I doubt it will be that.
 
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Sounds more like PC related, connectors or connections probably. Repeat the exercise of taking the PC out and see if it boots. I have a spare PSU that I can send you but I doubt it will be that.
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Ok mate thanks. I will give that a shot and see how it goes 👍
 
When you say 'took the PC out' do you mean took the entire PC case out, of the cab or removed the components, e.g. the motherboard, from the case? If the latter, you could also check that the underside of the motherboard isn't shorting on the case somewhere, but it does sound quite like a dodgy/perhaps dirty or corroded connector, like @Moonraker suggested.
 
JT. said:
When you say 'took the PC out' do you mean took the entire PC case out, of the cab or removed the components, e.g. the motherboard, from the case? If the latter, you could also check that the underside of the motherboard isn't shorting on the case somewhere, but it does sound quite like a dodgy/perhaps dirty or corroded connector, like @Moonraker suggested.
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Thanks, yeah took it all out completely. All seemed to be good. Very clean board and doesn’t seem to be shorting anywhere. I tried shorting the power pins to rule out the power switch and still didn’t switch on. It’s a strange one
 
Myself and Jim probably know the most about these conversions.

This defo looks like a Jim job to me.

Power supplies do go down, and it could also be a short somewhere on the MB but I would bet on the PSU.

Internally you can convert a 230v ATX to work on 110v. Had to do this a few times.

But as pointed out - if the CMOS battery also runs down - you need to re-do the bios.

But first FOLLOW @Arv 's advice. Just use a small bit of wire. If the PSU comes into life then the problem is the motherboard.

If you need further help them get in touch with me or Jim.
 
Right so you can rule out the PSU. Your board could be kapput.
 
Find the manual for the motherboard connect the psu again and manually try to power it on by jumpering the relevant pins as per the manual.
 
Pick Holder said:
Funnily enough I have this week thrown two of those motherboards away. Not even used, in original packing. They just would not boot up.
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Yeah definitely a strange one. So the keyboard arrived so set the bios to boot automatically which it does now. But it is definitely intermittent. So times it powers on and some times it doesn’t. Not sure if I can put a video up but it tries to boot then stops, then tries again for a while. Finally it may boot. 🤔🤦‍♂️
 
That’s just all wired up as it would be in the game. Just hit the main pinball power switch, not touched the pc power switch. It did finally boot in to the game
 
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Find the manual for the motherboard connect the psu again and manually try to power it on by jumpering the relevant pins as per the manual.
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Have you done this yet? It's all a process of elimination you see..
 
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If you have the manual for the motherboard, you could check to see if it mentions POST indicators - LED flashes or beeps that might indicate where it gets to in the boot process before sometimes failing.

A couple of other things it could be that can be tested for:

- Failing RAM: these can be tested using the memtest86.com tool - instructions on that website.

- Silver paste between CPU fan and CPU has gone hard/bad. Remove the fan, scrape off the old paste, and replace with a tiny blob of new paste - instructions on YouTube.
 
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