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New arrival Rotation VIII

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I recently picked up a Rotation VIII, I've been looking for one for some time and one turned up in Germany on Ebay, a cheeky offer to the seller was accepted, probably still paid over the odds, but how do you value something when there are no benchmarks?

Anyway..... it was non working, to it arrived nd the challenge commenced.

It wouldn't boot up, this was down to the connection between the logic board (CPU/MPU) and the EPROM board, with that sorted it then booted.

This then showed that it was still dead, feature lamps were very bright and the seven segment displays non working, traced to three dead transistor on the logic board, the transistors were for driving rows/columns on the matrix, with the transistors replaced things were starting to calm down and with a few feature lamps replaced all lamps were working....


Next onto the display, what was noted here was that when there was the issue with the column transistor the signal to the displays was 23V instead of around 2.5-3V, this had killed one of the Darlington arrays, with this replaced the displays were now alive again....


Things were getting exciting by this point and attract mode was consequently doing what it should be....



Attention was now being given to the playfield, the parts list is interesting, looking for part numbers on the internet shows up little or nothing! one pop bumper coil bracket and coil was missing, but it looked strangely familiar, on comparison with my WPC games it's identical in every way! Looks like Williams Bally designers strive as hard as the Porsche designers 🤣 Checking out Andy's and Phil's websites Andy had the correct coil so made an order with Andy for a few bits, all arrived next day, great service as usual. Missing pop bumper bracket/coil replaced and other pop coils replaced as another had clearly been hot, found the pop bumper coil that had been hot to be 'locked on', still work in progress on this one as the logic driver on the logic board sees the correct input from the pop spoon switch, but output is incorrect, replaced the driver chip but no change.... back to that one another time!

Next was the rotation motor, it would only rotate the table anti clockwise, traced to a Darlington pair transistor on the motor drive board, replaced that and the rotation was restored.

Next was to try to 'play' a game, the rubbers were hard as glass, so just pressing targets by hand, soon found the left flipper would flip but not hold, open circuit hold winding on the coil, back to our Andy for three new coils.

Strip, clean and wax the playfield, fit new rubbers and clean the plastics (which look like new) and we have life....



All in, a nice little project and a machine I've been looking for for quite a time, it's the first I've seen and its mine :thumbs:


All the best,

Chris.
 
Hi,

I am very curious about the rotating mechanism and how the power supply works. Would it be possible to ask for a filmed clip with the inner working of the cabinet? The documentation of this pinball game I have not found much about, I believe I have most of the manuals and images, but no description of the actual rotating mech. It looks like it spins forever in one direction, so that should rule out cabels. Or have I missunderstood?

I have a goal of making a game with inspiration of the rotation viii, to make a game that is accessible for people in wheelchairs and their able bodied friends, to enjoy a game together. But as a modern game.

Any info or filmed material you can provide would be much appreciated,

Thanks for posting the stuff already posted =)

/Jon
 
@SwedishPinball

Hi Jon,

Always happy to share some Rotation VIII love 👍

The table rotates in both directions, the basic design is that anything that is cabinet mounted, ie flipper buttons, start buttons, coin door inputs and the power in all come through a commutator, so no wires and limitless rotation, I personally like the attract feature where the playfield does one full rotation every 15(?) minutes….

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Which makes its contact through what are effectively brushes….

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This takes care of all the ‘remote’ switches and power, then all the rest of the machine rotates simultaneously, ie the playfield, MPU, power board, transformers and rotation drive mechanism.

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I like your idea of a machine all can play, however I fear the game depth and options could be limited, that said I do think it’s a great fun machine, if you venture to the North West of the UK you would be very welcome to have a good look round the machine and play on it and my other machines.

It’s also interesting as it’s made by ‘Midway Bally’ but clearly NOT the pinball devision, I suspect it was made by the arcade game devision. So much odd things on it that’s just not pinball practice.

Should you want any more info just shout, these were just some convenient pictures I had on my phone.

All the best,

Chris.
 
@SwedishPinball

Hi Jon,

Always happy to share some Rotation VIII love 👍

The table rotates in both directions, the basic design is that anything that is cabinet mounted, ie flipper buttons, start buttons, coin door inputs and the power in all come through a commutator, so no wires and limitless rotation, I personally like the attract feature where the playfield does one full rotation every 15(?) minutes….

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Which makes its contact through what are effectively brushes….

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This takes care of all the ‘remote’ switches and power, then all the rest of the machine rotates simultaneously, ie the playfield, MPU, power board, transformers and rotation drive mechanism.

View attachment 182338

I like your idea of a machine all can play, however I fear the game depth and options could be limited, that said I do think it’s a great fun machine, if you venture to the North West of the UK you would be very welcome to have a good look round the machine and play on it and my other machines.

It’s also interesting as it’s made by ‘Midway Bally’ but clearly NOT the pinball devision, I suspect it was made by the arcade game devision. So much odd things on it that’s just not pinball practice.

Should you want any more info just shout, these were just some convenient pictures I had on my phone.

All the best,

Chris.
Very many thanks =) Exactly what I was looking for =)
 
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