Wanted Biostar P4TDG motherboard

[ronnie63]

On the lookout for this motherboard, around 2005 era, needed to to run a pc based gaming machine so needs to be the same harware

Thanks Ronnie

 

[Nutty]

Good luck with that im sure the capacitors have long since burst on boards from that age, I run a computer company and we get old hardware all the time so I will keep a lookout. PC based arcade machines are a nightmare we have tried to fix some with the same hardware only to find the manufacture has flashed a custom firmware.

 

[ChrisH]

Does it need to be THAT board, because it's a pretty standard board for the era, MATX Socket 478 with the Intel 845G chipset - by the looks of it?

 

[ronnie63]

Good luck with that im sure the capacitors have long since burst on boards from that age, I run a computer company and we get old hardware all the time so I will keep a lookout. PC based arcade machines are a nightmare we have tried to fix some with the same hardware only to find the manufacture has flashed a custom firmware.

Thanks nutty the caps looked really good which is the first thing I looked at, be good if you keep an eye out cheers

 

[ronnie63]

Does it need to be THAT board, because it's a pretty standard board for the era, MATX Socket 478 with the Intel 845G chipset - by the looks of it?

Chris I’m not sure tbh, what threw me was the ata 100 chip? I did try a foxcon p4 board which did start to load but blue screened! Most boards I see have intel or via on that ata 100 chip, the game is running via embedded xp. I have managed to find compatible boards for other machines in the past but don’t see any of these on eBay !

Thanks Ronnie

 

[Pick Holder]

@ronnie63 if you are running winxp embedded you will need the same motherboard.
Put the identical processor in, as well as the same RAM. Even then it is touch and go if it will not blue screen out.
Had the same issue with the old ultrapins. Had to be the identical board.

 

[ronnie63]

@ronnie63 if you are running winxp embedded you will need the same motherboard.
Put the identical processor in, as well as the same RAM. Even then it is touch and go if it will not blue screen out.
Had the same issue with the old ultrapins. Had to be the identical board.

Thanks, yes I thought that might be the case! I guess it's a long shot but worth taking for the op, it's a 3 player Astra machine and if no motherboard it will be scrapped!

 

[Arv]

You'd need to create an image of the disk before you do anything.

Remove the mass storage drivers under safe mode power off and then add your new motherboard. It should detect everything and not bsod.

There was a registry subkey you could just delete but I can't for the life of me remember it. It was 20 years ago when I used to do this stuff daily.

 

[ronnie63]

You'd need to create an image of the disk before you do anything.

Remove the mass storage drivers under safe mode power off and then add your new motherboard. It should detect everything and not bsod.

There was a registry subkey you could just delete but I can't for the life of me remember it. It was 20 years ago when I used to do this stuff daily.

Thanks Arv, safe mode woth old mobo? it no longer posts

Cheers Ronnie

 

[Arv]

Ah bugger. Safe mode with new one should work or you use hirens boot CD to strip out parts of the registry.

 

[ronnie63]

Ah bugger. Safe mode with new one should work or you use hirens boot CD to strip out parts of the registry.

Thanks Arv, I think I could manage to clone the hd but for the rest I would need my hand holding!

Thanks Ronnie

 

[ronnie63]

Ok I managed to purchase a motherboard with the same chipset and it seems to work I got into the os and managed to install the correct graphics and soun drivers and the pc is looking for the io board! BUT I somehow changed a setting that requires the pressing of control alt delete to login! God knows how? or how to rectify it, will add some pics shortly, if anyone can help please?

Thanks Ronnie

 

[ronnie63]

After passing above screen I get this

 

[Nutty]

After passing above screen I get this

If I remember I looked at a 3 player Monopoly fruit machine which if similar it was linked up via RS232 and 1 of the units was a master for the other 2.

 

[ronnie63]

If I remember I looked at a 3 player Monopoly fruit machine which if similar it was linked up via RS232 and 1 of the units was a master for the other 2.

It is similar but the master is in the back bit which holds the plama screen

 

[Nutty]

Ok, when we have fixed arcade machines in the past as in the PCs inside them we can only go so far as on some games the PC will refused to go any further without the fruit machine / Video game hardware plugged in.

From what I can remember as it was a while ago the monopoly had a PC unit in the screen and the fruit machines daisy chained from the PC.

I may be wrong just giving you ideas really but the message may mean that the master fruit machine is not plugged in as you have to have at least 1 for the game to work and the other 3 daisy chain from the master so perhaps the PC drivers are not present because of a different motherboard for the communication to the fruit machine units or you have to have the PC inside the master back box for it to work as the hardware is missing on your test monitor.